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    I am sorry but I just don't see throwing the 3 goggles is unsportsmanship. This is a different era. Punching, shoving cursing a player, etc. those are unsportsman like but the goggles, showing the jersey name, etc. that is just exhuberence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boonesp View Post
    I am sorry but I just don't see throwing the 3 goggles is unsportsmanship. This is a different era. Punching, shoving cursing a player, etc. those are unsportsman like but the goggles, showing the jersey name, etc. that is just exhuberence.
    Only thing you are trying to do by doing the bolded above is made yourself seen. That is unsportsman-like. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jahearme View Post
    Only thing you are trying to do by doing the bolded above is made yourself seen. That is unsportsman-like. Period.
    In the decade I grew up in you are right. But 3 or 4 decades later it is not. Elvis' hips were disgraceful in the 60's but they are seen as old fashion now. Times change and not always for the better.

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    So much for home court advantage. The better team wins period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblueinsanity View Post
    So much for home court advantage. The better team wins period.
    Totally agree! Also I believe in the discussion about the unsportsmanlike especially with the 3 goggles, its the officials that really want to be noticed. Please- these kids watch it everyday on the tv and there is never any penalty. Some officials want to be recognized as well and that is not only in this game but in a lot of games as well. I have known of officials turning around and cussing at fans- that is unprofessional as well as unsportsmanlike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puttingforbirdie View Post
    Totally agree! Also I believe in the discussion about the unsportsmanlike especially with the 3 goggles, its the officials that really want to be noticed. Please- these kids watch it everyday on the tv and there is never any penalty. Some officials want to be recognized as well and that is not only in this game but in a lot of games as well. I have known of officials turning around and cussing at fans- that is unprofessional as well as unsportsmanlike.
    I'll agree with you that there are some, very few but some, officials who do want to be seen. I could give names, but I won't. Officials who want to be noticed come around about as much as players that want to be noticed, rarely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblueinsanity View Post
    So much for home court advantage. The better team wins period.

    Home court dosn't mean you will win, but it still is an advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblueinsanity View Post
    So much for home court advantage. The better team wins period.
    Mason Co would have won by 20 if this game was held at the fieldhouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NKYThreeFer View Post
    What about the technical on Josh Harris for throwing up the "3 goggles"? I've seen players at all levels do that this year, and never seen someone get hit with a T. Interesting time for the first one.
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    Maybe the officials don't see too many made 3-pointers in the 16th.
    That is funny reading this because we were just taking here in the 16th this morning how over the weekend Wing for Rowan done the "3" goggles in Rowan's game v. West Carter and nothing was called. That has been called all season in the 16th. The refs i nthe 16th look at that as taunting. In talking to the refs up here that is supposed to be called. But I guess that is not interprented that way by the 10th region refs. But see that is an example of some of the rules that the KHSAA needs to make sure if they are going to switch regions is callled all over that could have been a call that cost Mason the ballgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16thBBall Fan View Post
    That is funny reading this because we were just taking here in the 16th this morning how over the weekend Wing for Rowan done the "3" goggles in Rowan's game v. West Carter and nothing was called. That has been called all season in the 16th. The refs i nthe 16th look at that as taunting. In talking to the refs up here that is supposed to be called. But I guess that is not interprented that way by the 10th region refs. But see that is an example of some of the rules that the KHSAA needs to make sure if they are going to switch regions is callled all over that could have been a call that cost Mason the ballgame.
    Yes and no. It's no different than some regions calling hand checks more than other regions, but I see what you are saying. When it comes to unsportsman-like, these need to be consistent across the state. What's unsporting in Princeton needs to be what's unsporting in Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblueinsanity View Post
    So much for home court advantage. The better team wins period.
    So Indiana is the better team since they beat UK at Bloomington. You don't don't think home court and that atmosphere that day wasn't worth a few points? Whether it was the adrenaline boosting their players or the nerves of the Wildcats that crowd affected that game hence it was a home court advantage. Home court advantage exists but it doesn't guarantee a win. Would Mason have won at home by more last night, maybe or would Montgomery have lost by more anywhere but home last night, again maybe. You might be the only person in KY who thinks IN is better that UK, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boonesp View Post
    So Indiana is the better team since they beat UK at Bloomington. You don't don't think home court and that atmosphere that day wasn't worth a few points? Whether it was the adrenaline boosting their players or the nerves of the Wildcats that crowd affected that game hence it was a home court advantage. Home court advantage exists but it doesn't guarantee a win. Would Mason have won at home by more last night, maybe or would Montgomery have lost by more anywhere but home last night, again maybe. You might be the only person in KY who thinks IN is better that UK, period.
    Indiana was the better team that day, translate they won the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boonesp View Post
    So Indiana is the better team since they beat UK at Bloomington. You don't don't think home court and that atmosphere that day wasn't worth a few points? Whether it was the adrenaline boosting their players or the nerves of the Wildcats that crowd affected that game hence it was a home court advantage. Home court advantage exists but it doesn't guarantee a win. Would Mason have won at home by more last night, maybe or would Montgomery have lost by more anywhere but home last night, again maybe. You might be the only person in KY who thinks IN is better that UK, period.
    Better that day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblueinsanity View Post
    Better that day!
    Agreed better that day because the home court made them better that day.

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    My opinions: Home court advantage is not worth much if anything to the teams during the tournament because the fans generally travel pretty well. It might be worth more during the season. Familiarity with the gym might be worth a couple of points. As for taunting, it should not be tollerated, not even the mildest form--by the Refs or the Coaches. But it does need to be enforced as uniformly as possible. The kids should be expected to use all of their energy to play as hard as possible and forget the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16thBBall Fan View Post
    That is funny reading this because we were just taking here in the 16th this morning how over the weekend Wing for Rowan done the "3" goggles in Rowan's game v. West Carter and nothing was called. That has been called all season in the 16th. The refs i nthe 16th look at that as taunting. In talking to the refs up here that is supposed to be called. But I guess that is not interprented that way by the 10th region refs. But see that is an example of some of the rules that the KHSAA needs to make sure if they are going to switch regions is callled all over that could have been a call that cost Mason the ballgame.
    Which again begs the question as to the reason for "trading officials" for arguably the most important games (regional tourneys) of the season. It sure would have been a shame if a call like this - regardless of who it was called on - tipped the scales in a game - and all because of different "regional interpretations".

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    One side is right and the other is wrong (and I do not know which it is), as KHSAA and NFHS say there should be no regional interpretations. But I agree, I don't like the switching of refs.

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    Montgomery missing 5 of the six technical free throws was big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    Montgomery missing 5 of the six technical free throws was big.
    8-15 from the FT line for the night. Not the percentage you need to win a regional tournament game.
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