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    Quote Originally Posted by Djason Unchained View Post
    I'll add to this by saying there are also AAU coaches using AAU to further their coaching careers as well. As much as the college coaches come to watch the players there are also coaches hoping to be seen by college coaches as well.
    Also high school coaches (usually not the head coach, but a member of the staff) who want to get on AAU staffs just to make sure people aren't pulling at their kids too hard (read: I want to be on the staff of my star player's AAU team to keep all the people trying to recruit him to other high schools from doing so).
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    There are some good AAU coaches.....but most of them are "weekend warriors." The good high school coaches do it 5 or 6 days a week....and has gotten to the point where it is practically year round. Just in experience alone, I would say the high school coach has an advantage on AAU coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    To answer your questions...

    1. I'm interested to see Ziegelmeyer this year for CCH and see if he lives up to the hype that I've heard about him. I expect AJ Mayer to start to make a name for himself as a sophomore but the key for the Colonels will be the senior class of Heppler, Sweeney, Massie, and Lenhof. Also think the soph to be class could push those seniors to get better over the summer as CCH will have enough depth that it will be a war for minutes.

    2. Holmes obviously loses two studs in Bolden and Avery but return enough talent and experience to likely be preseason #2 in the region. Mullins and McClendon will be as good a guard duo as any other in the 9th region but how Arnold, Moore, and soph to be Raavai Commodore transition to major varsity roles will determine how good they can be. Jaiden Green could be an X factor as either a starter or 6th-7th man, along with senior shooter Brennon Englemon.

    3. For Dixie, I expect senior Holmes transfer Ian Brolley to step in as a starter once he becomes eligible in December. He has had a great summer from everything I've heard and will be a Liam Rabe type player for the Colonels next season. As far as the younger kids go, Reed Bradfield, and current frosh Tyler Schreck (Austin Schreck's younger brother), and AJ Plitzuweit (NKU Women's head coach son) will probably be counted on to either start or provide major minutes. Dixie will be young and have some growing pains but will be competitive.

    4. McNeil should have a great season and will definitely be a POY candidate. Hendrix and Kunkel should provide enough help to keep opposing teams from constantly keying on him.
    Can't wait for summer ball. To see the younger guys mixed in with the older ones, and to see which veteran players steps up for their teams. Will be fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JokersWild24 View Post
    Also high school coaches (usually not the head coach, but a member of the staff) who want to get on AAU staffs just to make sure people aren't pulling at their kids too hard (read: I want to be on the staff of my star player's AAU team to keep all the people trying to recruit him to other high schools from doing so).
    Nothing wrong with that at all and I don't blame them one bit. AAU could use more high school head coaches and assistant coaches involvement. Everyone benefits then.

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    I went to the National AAU tournament in Louisville last year, and from what I saw most of the coaching was a joke. There's a reason why there's a running gag trend on Twitter making fun of AAU coaches. Now, that's not saying all of them are bad and all high school coaches are great. High school coaching has gone down considerably in recent years, and may have AAU to thank for some of that. It's all about getting kids & talent, which AAU drives that train, and less about actual X's and O's and teaching the game.

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    AAU is a money grab... kids who aren't being looked at by colleges already would be much better served to invest in good skills camps. Summer should be a time for individual improvement rather than individual exposure. I know kids who play AAU who don't even practice. Just play a bunch of games on the weekends. How is that making them better???

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteScout33 View Post
    AAU is a money grab... kids who aren't being looked at by colleges already would be much better served to invest in good skills camps. Summer should be a time for individual improvement rather than individual exposure. I know kids who play AAU who don't even practice. Just play a bunch of games on the weekends. How is that making them better???
    Here is the problem...very small probability that playing a summer's worth of AAU is going to make a HS team better the next fall.

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    Here is my take on both topics floating on this thread:

    For summer AAU ball there has to be a balance...(which doesn't exist often imo) between playing some games and working on skills. You learn to play the game by playing the game, but you don't develop skills by just playing the game. Those are developed separately. A good AAU program can be good for some if in the right situation, but overall is probably a negative for most. If a kid is on a good TEAM that plays together and doesn't worry about individual flare or exposure and has a good coach then AAU can be a good experience. With all that being said, as a huge fan of basketball, I do not enjoy watching AAU games in most cases, nor do I enjoy the environment.

    AS for the D1 debate.....if you study or research statistics on all three sports about the number of HS athletes who play on in college then you will see that it is very low for all three. Around 3-4% for basketball, 6% for baseball and football (depending on which study you look at). Yes basketball is the lowest, but also take into account numbers on rosters in college. Regardless, odds for all three are extremely low, and is why you play a sport because you love it, not based on which one you think will get you on a college roster. Cause most will be disappointed by the lack of making on a college roster. Plus, a lot of those in that 3-6% range that make it (the superior athletes) would probably make it in any of those three sports anyway if they chose to concentrate on any of the three.

    So, let them play what they love and enjoy being on a team to achieve a common goal and make memories!!! That's what HS sports is about,......or should be imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey View Post
    Here is my take on both topics floating on this thread:

    For summer AAU ball there has to be a balance...(which doesn't exist often imo) between playing some games and working on skills. You learn to play the game by playing the game, but you don't develop skills by just playing the game. Those are developed separately. A good AAU program can be good for some if in the right situation, but overall is probably a negative for most. If a kid is on a good TEAM that plays together and doesn't worry about individual flare or exposure and has a good coach then AAU can be a good experience. With all that being said, as a huge fan of basketball, I do not enjoy watching AAU games in most cases, nor do I enjoy the environment.

    AS for the D1 debate.....if you study or research statistics on all three sports about the number of HS athletes who play on in college then you will see that it is very low for all three. Around 3-4% for basketball, 6% for baseball and football (depending on which study you look at). Yes basketball is the lowest, but also take into account numbers on rosters in college. Regardless, odds for all three are extremely low, and is why you play a sport because you love it, not based on which one you think will get you on a college roster. Cause most will be disappointed by the lack of making on a college roster. Plus, a lot of those in that 3-6% range that make it (the superior athletes) would probably make it in any of those three sports anyway if they chose to concentrate on any of the three.

    So, let them play what they love and enjoy being on a team to achieve a common goal and make memories!!! That's what HS sports is about,......or should be imo.
    GREAT post, very accurate on all points!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKY Bandit View Post
    school basketball in June is ruining AAU. is there a petition somewhere I can sign against it?
    AAU is killing school ball. AAU basketball is also killing spring sports. AAU should only be played in the dead period with just a few tournaments. Wouldn't hurt my and many others feelings if there were no AAU.

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Grimes View Post
    AAU is killing school ball. AAU basketball is also killing spring sports. AAU should only be played in the dead period with just a few tournaments. Wouldn't hurt my and many others feelings if there were no AAU.

    Just sayin.
    The flip side is that everyone I know that does AAU (boys and girls) loves their teammates they play with for a short period of time, loves their Coach, the environment,etc. As an Outsider looking in,I agree with you whole heartedly, but the actual participants and their families love it with a capital L. So if your passion is 24/7/365 basketball or baseball or football, go for it full steam and never look back

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    AAU is pimped out basketball. Unfortunately, it's the same in every sport. Pay to play on some all star team. Take kids from anywhere, put them together and go play. No one wants to develop kids anymore for there program, just take the best players willing to pay and hope some college coaches will see them. In return, the coaches hope to piggy back it to a job. The way finances are at schools, I am afraid the day will come when all sports will be pay to play. Schools will drop athletic teams. Cant wait to cram into the KBA and watch the Lexington Shining Stars (don't know if such team exists) made up of kids from Owensboro, Covington, Ashland, Indianapolis, Cincy, etc., play one on one basketball. You can see the same thing at the "Blue Courts" for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor7 View Post
    AAU is pimped out basketball. Unfortunately, it's the same in every sport. Pay to play on some all star team. Take kids from anywhere, put them together and go play. No one wants to develop kids anymore for there program, just take the best players willing to pay and hope some college coaches will see them. In return, the coaches hope to piggy back it to a job. The way finances are at schools, I am afraid the day will come when all sports will be pay to play. Schools will drop athletic teams. Cant wait to cram into the KBA and watch the Lexington Shining Stars (don't know if such team exists) made up of kids from Owensboro, Covington, Ashland, Indianapolis, Cincy, etc., play one on one basketball. You can see the same thing at the "Blue Courts" for free.
    It's really not that bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Grimes View Post
    AAU is killing school ball. AAU basketball is also killing spring sports. AAU should only be played in the dead period with just a few tournaments. Wouldn't hurt my and many others feelings if there were no AAU.

    Just sayin.
    Same can be said for club soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Grimes View Post
    AAU is killing school ball. AAU basketball is also killing spring sports. AAU should only be played in the dead period with just a few tournaments. Wouldn't hurt my and many others feelings if there were no AAU.

    Just sayin.
    It wouldn't hurt mine either. Kids playing football seem to do just fine being found without AAU. No reason basketball couldn't follow the same model football is using to find out who can and can't play at the next level.

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