Aren't we Lucky in Kentucky to have the Sweet 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    Being the first time I ever attended after all these years, all I can say is WOW. It truly is something special.

    What makes it as special as it is, is where it is played. I don't think it would be quite as special if it was held anywhere else but someplace as historical as Rupp Arena. That is the icing on the cake.

    No offense Louisville, but playing at the Yum Center just isn't the same if they ever moved it there. Keep it at Rupp until it no longer stands period.

    HB, I understand your sentiments, but the state tournament for me will never be better than Freedom Hall. That is where I watched many when I started going in 1960 until 1972. My dad pulled me out of school every year from the age of 6 until i was nearly 18. I remember lots of players and teams from that era. My dad was from Ohio County and always rooted for the 3rd region teams. I still watch that region closely today because of that.

    I never thought Freedom Hall could be replaced and in my mind and my experiences. Rupp has nothing on it. If Rupp were to somehow lose the Greatest Show on Earth, I think it will still be awesome because the game, players, format, history and experience overrides wherever it is. I saw 18K in Freedom Hall many times, not near that many today at Rupp. I do know NCCA with UK and UL playing hurt, but...

    I do love The experience and being at Rupp is cool but not the reason it is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    I respectfully disagree. I think the venue only adds to the entire event. I think if you asked the kids who play in it if they'd rather play at Rupp or at Trinity HS, the overwhelming majority would pick Rupp. It adds to the entire tournament.
    Well that's a dumb comparison, so I'd say you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengal Maniac View Post
    HB, I understand your sentiments, but the state tournament for me will never be better than Freedom Hall. That is where I watched many when I started going in 1960 until 1972. My dad pulled me out of school every year from the age of 6 until i was nearly 18. I remember lots of players and teams from that era. My dad was from Ohio County and always rooted for the 3rd region teams. I still watch that region closely today because of that.

    I never thought Freedom Hall could be replaced and in my mind and my experiences. Rupp has nothing on it. If Rupp were to somehow lose the Greatest Show on Earth, I think it will still be awesome because the game, players, format, history and experience overrides wherever it is. I saw 18K in Freedom Hall many times, not near that many today at Rupp. I do know NCCA with UK and UL playing hurt, but...

    I do love The experience and being at Rupp is cool but not the reason it is great.
    It just all comes
    down to personal preference I guess. To me the tournament adds excitement to me for where it's played. Football for instance doesn't excite me to go to the games because where the championships are played. Being a lifelong UK fan however makes the sweet 16 awesome of I were in HS playing because of where it's held. Same
    as I'm sure UL fans felt when they got to play at Freedom Hall. Just my take is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    I see what you're saying.
    I'm just too much of a history buff myself.

    I wouldnt ever ever want to tear down Wrigley Field or Fenway park but I know others would because they don't like old buildings etc. I'm about the history myself. That's where we differ.
    The thing is, Wrigley and Fenway have actual character to them, much the same way your aforementioned Cameron, and places like Hinkle and the Palestra do. Rupp has none of these things other than the team that inhabits it. The building itself is a 1970s relic that reminds me more of Riverfront Stadium and the other similar concrete donuts of its era. UK deserves better than that, but they're held hostage by the downtown business association in Lex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Well that's a dumb comparison, so I'd say you are right.
    Just showing that venue does add a little to the tournament that helps make it even better was my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    It just all comes
    down to personal preference I guess. To me the tournament adds excitement to me for where it's played. Football for instance doesn't excite me to go to the games because where the championships are played. Being a lifelong UK fan however makes the sweet 16 awesome of I were in HS playing because of where it's held. Same
    as I'm sure UL fans felt when they got to play at Freedom Hall. Just my take is all.
    I am not a UL fan at all and luke warm UK. Has nothing to do with it for me. I understand what you are saying and many feel the same way you do. But I guarantee you that if Cooper would have played at Yum, Diddle, NKU, Murray, etc. you would have loved it. It is the experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    Just showing that venue does add a little to the tournament that helps make it even better was my point.
    And my point is that the Sweet 16 being at Rupp doesn't make the event what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengal Maniac View Post
    I am not a UL fan at all and luke warm UK. Has nothing to do with it for me. I understand what you are saying and many feel the same way you do. But I guarantee you that if Cooper would have played at Yum, Diddle, NKU, Murray, etc. you would have loved it. It is the experience.
    I would have loved wherever they were playing as long as they were playing. My point was simply the venue added to the tournament. I understand Jim's side of the argument that he wants modern buildings etc. but Rupp isn't falling apart. Didn't see any rats, didn't see plaster falling off the walls. Didn't see beams falling down or the ceiling falling. It's for basketball games and the arena itself is just fine. Seats were great, had no problems with the building at all. Jim may like seeing glass walls or moving sidewalks etc to help get around but I don't go to sporting events to walk around the hallways, I go to watch the game(s). So the actual field/court and seats and visibility is what is important to me. Not what the janitors closets look like. With that, the history of the place for me is the icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    And my point is that the Sweet 16 being at Rupp doesn't make the event what it is.
    You are 100% right. But it helps add to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    I would have loved wherever they were playing as long as they were playing. My point was simply the venue added to the tournament. I understand Jim's side of the argument that he wants modern buildings etc. but Rupp isn't falling apart. Didn't see any rats, didn't see plaster falling off the walls. Didn't see beams falling down or the ceiling falling. It's for basketball games and the arena itself is just fine. Seats were great, had no problems with the building at all. Jim may like seeing glass walls or moving sidewalks etc to help get around but I don't go to sporting events to walk around the hallways, I go to watch the game(s). So the actual field/court and seats and visibility is what is important to me. Not what the janitors closets look like. With that, the history of the place for me is the icing on the cake.
    For what it's worth, I've never been to the Chicken Bucket. All I'm saying is Rupp is extremely outdated, no matter how many "renovations" are done to it. UK deserves a better home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    I would have loved wherever they were playing as long as they were playing. My point was simply the venue added to the tournament. I understand Jim's side of the argument that he wants modern buildings etc. but Rupp isn't falling apart. Didn't see any rats, didn't see plaster falling off the walls. Didn't see beams falling down or the ceiling falling. It's for basketball games and the arena itself is just fine. Seats were great, had no problems with the building at all. Jim may like seeing glass walls or moving sidewalks etc to help get around but I don't go to sporting events to walk around the hallways, I go to watch the game(s). So the actual field/court and seats and visibility is what is important to me. Not what the janitors closets look like. With that, the history of the place for me is the icing on the cake.
    I completely agree, and all I can go on is the goose bumps and tingles I get inside whenever I attend the Sweet 16 at Rupp.

    When I see those kids run out on that floor for the first time during the 1st round knowing how excited they are to be there, I literally get choked up.

    I can't see anything wrong with the place and it's a fantastic big bright place to see a game.

    I also dig the friendly classic small town feel of the surroundings and the buzz of people from all over the state gathering outside and throughout the hotel lobby, and in the food court all sharing the same love for the magic and excitement of the Sweet 16.

    It just feels so right and so special that I'd be afraid to see it ever go anywhere else. The magic is right there, and there's no guarantee that this same feeling can be duplicated elsewhere.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't mess with tradition. Since it's been there it really came to feel like the Sweet 16 truly had found its home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Ball-fan View Post
    I completely agree, and all I can go on is the goose bumps and tingles I get inside whenever I attend the Sweet 16 at Rupp.

    When I see those kids run out on that floor for the first time during the 1st round knowing how excited they are to be there, I literally get choked up.

    I can't see anything wrong with the place and it's a fantastic big bright place to see a game.

    I also dig the friendly classic small town feel of the surroundings and the buzz of people from all over the state gathering outside and throughout the hotel lobby, and in the food court all sharing the same love for the magic and excitement of the Sweet 16.

    It just feels so right and so special that I'd be afraid to see it ever go anywhere else. The magic is right there, and there's no guarantee that this same feeling can be duplicated elsewhere.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't mess with tradition. Since it's been there it really came to feel like the Sweet 16 truly had found its home.
    I get it on Rupp. But I can guarantee you that Freedom Hall was the same way and I never thought they would ever leave there. I thought it was blasphemy when it did leave Freedom Hall after the rotation for a few years.

    I love Rupp, also. Freedom Hall was really in bad shape the last few years it was there. The problem facility wise with Rupp is the upper level, it is awful with poor seating. The lower bowl and all that is really cool.

    I also thing I would love it no matter where t is, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    I totally agree. Very nice way to end the season. But now no basketball for a long time.
    .....and my fingers get a well needed break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    It was nice meeting a few new people this weekend, @TheProfessor @SnottieDrippen @Yellow Card @mooremiller31. Good seeing @Bengal Maniac again as well! And I guess @Randy Parker too...
    Nice to meet you too brother and as always good to see @PurplePride92

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