Ugly Campaign Cycle Getting Uglier

Just plain sleazy.



Does it matter that Romney stopped doing work for Bain in 1999 or the steel plant in question here closed down in 2001 or Soptic’s wife passed away in 2006? Nope. Romney’s heartlessness is why she died.

First, it's a sad story. Sad stories always get attention.

Your point is fair.

PACs are now doing the dirty work for campaigns. I'm not familiar with this one but it and the Crossroads/Rove folks are going to be bombarding us with info that you have to do research on in order to get the fully story.

Originally Posted by Clyde

First, it's a sad story. Sad stories always get attention.

Your point is fair.

PACs are now doing the dirty work for campaigns. I'm not familiar with this one but it and the Crossroads/Rove folks are going to be bombarding us with info that you have to do research on in order to get the fully story.

Such as the story about this new ad:

Romney Claims Waivers He Used To Support Will 'Gut Welfare Reform' | ThinkProgress

Mitt Romney’s campaign launched a full-on attack on Tuesday accusing President Obama of gutting welfare reform. In a new ad, policy memo, and press release, Romney claims that the administration’s decision to offer waivers to states that develop innovative ways to meet the law’s work requirements is actually an attempt to “remove work participation rate requirements all together.”

“Under Obama’s plan, you wouldn’t have to work and wouldn’t have to train for a job,” the ad’s narrator says. “They just send you your welfare check.”

The ad is blatantly false — the administration’s plan specifically maintains the work requirement, but allows states to experiment with other methods of transitioning recipients from welfare to work. This is a policy that the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities says will make Temporary Assistance for Needy Families a more effective program.

But the ad is also disingenuous, as it fails to mention that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney explicitly supported the same waiver program he is now criticizing. Romney was one of 29 Republican governors to sign a 2005 letter from the Republican Governor’s Association to congressional leadership touting the benefits a waiver program would bring their states:
The Senate bill provides states with with the flexibility to manage their TANF programs and effectively serve their low-income populations. Increased waiver authority, allowable work activities, availability of partial work credit and the ability to coordinate state programs are all important aspects of moving recipients from welfare to work.

Look for some Delphi non-union employees to make a similar commercial - for the other side.

Originally Posted by Bluegrasscard

Look for some Delphi non-union employees to make a similar commercial - for the other side.

Here's details on the Delphi/pension issue. Could get really ugly.


Did Obama admin officials lie to Congress about Delphi pension termination? « Hot Air

...and here's the ad:


Top Priority - YouTube

Originally Posted by Clyde

Here's details on the Delphi/pension issue. Could get really ugly.


Did Obama admin officials lie to Congress about Delphi pension termination? « Hot Air

...and here's the ad:


Top Priority - YouTube

Whoa....that youtube was just posted today....and the Delphi story just broke or re-broke today on the blogs.

Its as if.....they knew the attack was coming... and had the counter punch already 'in the can' as they say in Hollywood.

Ugly - yes. But its heck of chess game also.

Extra butter going to be needed...

We might have to stop calling it the silly season and start calling it ninety days of nasty.

I just want to get to November and see how it shakes out. I'll pay very little attention to the ads.

^ You mean you're not utterly captivated by "Obamaloney vs. Romney Hood"?

Anyone who decides who to vote for based on a 30 second ad, gets what they deserve.

Originally Posted by mcpapa

We might have to stop calling it the silly season and start calling it ninety days of nasty.

You should trademark that. It has a nice ring.

Will we hear about "death squads" as investors in Bain?

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

I thought that the death squads worked in the new healthcare system...

Originally Posted by Clyde

Will we hear about "death squads" as investors in Bain?
Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

Seems like we just did.

Originally Posted by 75center

Seems like we just did.

It showing up on a blog doesnt have the impact of it showing up in a tv commercial.

Would it be unfair to advertise such an association?

Originally Posted by Clyde

It showing up on a blog doesnt have the impact of it showing up in a tv commercial.

Would it be unfair to advertise such an association?

Huffington post is a little bit more than a blog.

Unfair? If true I don't think so although I seem to recall some true associations of Obama's in 2008 that people felt were unfair to bring up. What do you think? What's fair and what isn't? Is it fair for Romney now to use the original ad from this thread to point out the dishonesty in the ad and tie that to Obama's honesty?

Apparently the wife of the steelworker in the ad I posted still had job and health insurance after he lost his. The ad doubled down on sleazy.

Here's a CNN story about it.

CNN: Obama Super PAC Ad "Not Accurate" - YouTube

Originally Posted by 75center

Here's a CNN story about it.

CNN: Obama Super PAC Ad "Not Accurate" - YouTube

That's were I heard she still had insurance.

Originally Posted by 75center

Huffington post is a little bit more than a blog.

Unfair? If true I don't think so although I seem to recall some true associations of Obama's in 2008 that people felt were unfair to bring up. What do you think? What's fair and what isn't? Is it fair for Romney now to use the original ad from this thread to point out the dishonesty in the ad and tie that to Obama's honesty?

HuffPo is a big blog but it's still not retaining viewers like TV will.

What's fair? Obviously, that's a tough one. I think associations are a fair issue. Candidate Obama certainly had to live down his associations with Rev and the radical. Associations are part of the equation.

I do have a bit of a concern about the report of Bain's involvement with reputed death squads. I think most would.

Yes, it would be fair for Mr Romney to show the problem with the ad as long as he's ready to have the same done to his ads.