POTUS' remarks to police

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    When the good cops start weeding out the bad cops, there will be less of the lumping.
    Or the good cops will just leave all together and we are left with bad cops and no cops. Thats safe for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    The OP asked if this was divisive (or alternately, "uniting") with respect to police/citizen relations.

    Which is it?
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    Doesn't look like it. We're dancing around the original question.

    The previous POTUS was pilloried for being divisive on the law enforcement/citizenry divide. Do these remarks from the current POTUS help bridge that divide? If so, how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Or the good cops will just leave all together and we are left with bad cops and no cops. Thats safe for everyone.
    This isn't true.

    Good cops need a culture that says bad cops should go: not protected.

    Good cops do their job of protecting and serving the citizens of this nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    Doesn't look like it. We're dancing around the original question.

    The previous POTUS was pilloried for being divisive on the law enforcement/citizenry divide. Do these remarks from the current POTUS help bridge that divide? If so, how?
    I personally dont think Trump cares in this situation if he bridges anything. I think he just wants these gangs gone and that basically is what he was saying in this speech. Said the police needs tough mean cops to combat savages who use machetes to kill people. I stand with the President on this one also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    I personally dont think Trump cares in this situation if he bridges anything. I think he just wants these gangs gone and that basically is what he was saying in this speech. Said the police needs tough mean cops to combat savages who use machetes to kill people. I stand with the President on this one also.
    So this is language that is uniting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    So this is language that is uniting?
    I said I dont think he cares in this case about uniting anything. He is uniting the police. How do I know that? I heard a bunch of interviews with some of the police. They love him and slammed the second coming for his stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    I said I dont think he cares in this case about uniting anything. He is uniting the police. How do I know that? I heard a bunch of interviews with some of the police. They love him and slammed the second coming for his stance.
    Does uniting the police = uniting the nation?

    My OP was Obama got grief for his comments. Is Trump uniting the nation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    Does uniting the police = uniting the nation?

    My OP was Obama got grief for his comments. Is Trump uniting the nation?
    Absolutely not. Thats already been proven that alot want the police dead and this kind of talk will divide. Just a matter of which side you are on. Show me one person who is going to unite the nation now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    Absolutely not. Thats already been proven that alot want the police dead and this kind of talk will divide. Just a matter of which side you are on. Show me one person who is going to unite the nation now?
    What constitutes "a lot" wanting the police dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    What constitutes "a lot" wanting the police dead?
    I guess thats a matter of opinion. When I watched the protests against the police I just went on what was being shouted and yelled. Maybe I should not take anyone at their word? But maybe you can answer my question? Who can unite the nation now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    I guess thats a matter of opinion. When I watched the protests against the police I just went on what was being shouted and yelled. Maybe I should not take anyone at their word? But maybe you can answer my question? Who can unite the nation now?
    Saying "a lot" want the police dead is hyperbole, IMO. But like you said, that's a matter of opinion I suppose.

    No one person can unite a country. Expecting one individual to be able to do so is not dealing in reality. It's a group effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    Absolutely not. Thats already been proven that alot want the police dead and this kind of talk will divide. Just a matter of which side you are on. Show me one person who is going to unite the nation now?
    So is Trump being divisive ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Saying "a lot" want the police dead is hyperbole, IMO. But like you said, that's a matter of opinion I suppose.

    No one person can unite a country. Expecting one individual to be able to do so is not dealing in reality. It's a group effort.
    To expect a group effort to unite over 300 million people is not dealing in reality either. Nothing will ever unite our entire population. A major event will align most of our citizens, but I don't foresee even 75 percent of us ever seeing eye to eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SHERIFF View Post
    To expect a group effort to unite over 300 million people is not dealing in reality either. Nothing will ever unite our entire population. A major event will align most of our citizens, but I don't foresee even 75 percent of us ever seeing eye to eye.
    I agree that we will never all agree on anything. But it doesn't take 75% of us to make a positive difference.

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