Obama Care to hit double digits in premiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    The Obama Care was just a scam and coverup to make working people pay for lazy and illegal people.

    Yeah I said it, lazy and illegal. thats what the Dems and Liberals are all about, making Americans dependent on the Government.

    I am all for the elderly or handicap and even those who cant work or cant find a job to get help with insurance. But I will be darned if I like having to pay for the illegals who come in and rob the system or those people who are too sorry to work and rely only on the government and the WORKING TAXPAYER.
    I'll tell my brother who works for a company that doesn't provide insurance and pays just a bit more than minimum wage that he's a lazy son of a biscuit eater. I'll call him at 2 in the morning, since he'll be up then to get to town to meet his ride. They'll mosey on up the road for an hour where they'll meet the rest of the crew and get to lazily trmiming the trees off of the power lines. Rockbro is low man on the totem pole. Maybe if he keeps this job long enough, he'll move up to the real fun work of actually cutting the limbs. Right now he just picks up the branches and feeds them into the chopper thingy. It's 10 hours of pure laziness. He pays for his insurance, but gets the tax break that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    Obama made no mistake.. Single pay was his goal all along...
    This a thousand times! If you think Obama did not want this to happen, you are not paying attention. He knew this was bound to happen...heck, anyone with a brain knew Obamacare was not sustainable. It is simply a model that makes no sense. He wanted to blow up the health care system and leave it in such a shambles, that the only way to fix it is for the government to step in and have a single payer system. My issues are (1) he was incredibly dishonest along the way with his crazy promises and (2) he and the other Dems who passed it do not care how many people they REALLY HURT in the process...and they are really hurting a lot of innocent folks who do not deserve this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    I'll tell my brother who works for a company that doesn't provide insurance and pays just a bit more than minimum wage that he's a lazy son of a biscuit eater. I'll call him at 2 in the morning, since he'll be up then to get to town to meet his ride. They'll mosey on up the road for an hour where they'll meet the rest of the crew and get to lazily trmiming the trees off of the power lines. Rockbro is low man on the totem pole. Maybe if he keeps this job long enough, he'll move up to the real fun work of actually cutting the limbs. Right now he just picks up the branches and feeds them into the chopper thingy. It's 10 hours of pure laziness. He pays for his insurance, but gets the tax break that helps.
    By Gosh do you not know what I mean by lazy people, let me spell it out for you ok.

    Lazy is people who sit on their DONKEY and do nothing but let a taxpayer provide for them.
    Lazy is people who don't want to work or try to work and let taxpayers provide for them.

    Do you need any more info.
    You liberals are so good at spinning stuff, but no one believes your stupid crap anymore because of so many lies and spins.

    The donkey mascot sure fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Except the myth that Congress is exempt from the ACA is a myth.... As are many of the rumors you hear about Congress and the benefits they receive.

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    Yeah and I'm sure they go right to urgent care clinics and wait in line at the ER too.
    I'm sure they do just that.

    I'm sure the Obamas and Clinton's and the rest of the scum in Congress get bills from the ER and insurance companies disputing if it was a real emergency or if it can be covered.

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    @mountain ref
    Dude, the issue is lazy people already got free healthcare, so to equivocate ACA to lazy offends many. ACA insured many who worked hard and had no way to afford insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    By Gosh do you not know what I mean by lazy people, let me spell it out for you ok.

    Lazy is people who sit on their DONKEY and do nothing but let a taxpayer provide for them.
    Lazy is people who don't want to work or try to work and let taxpayers provide for them.


    Do you need any more info.
    You liberals are so good at spinning stuff, but no one believes your stupid crap anymore because of so many lies and spins.

    The donkey mascot sure fits.
    Those people existed long before the ACA was enacted and the ACA didn't create any more of the "lazy" people. The aim of the ACA was to help the working poor who didn't have work provided insurance or couldn't afford it. When conservatives throw around the word "lazy" or "illegals" when discussing the ACA and it's shortcomings, it alienates that entire group of working poor. You wonder why the poor keep voting Democrat?? Because all they hear from conservatives is how lazy, shiftless and hand out driven they are, when the reality is most are busting their tails, working difficult jobs (sometimes multiple jobs) just to make end meet and are still just one illness or accident from being homeless. So while maybe you don't mean to insult them, when general terms are used, that's exactly how it sounds. And when people start advocating denial of medical/emergency care it sounds even worse. That's not spin. And maybe the Democrats do pander to that group. All the conservatives have to do is stop being so insulting to that group and maybe they'd have a prayer of getting some of that vote.

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    Oh ok, so the lazy poor don't have to sign up, they just go to nearest Democratic HQ and get signed up for the freebies.

    I was under the impression everyone had to sign up less you were covered by a employer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    In exchange for a semi-affordable monthly premium you have a good size deductible.

    For many it's cheaper to pay the fine than pay the monthly premiums AND the deductible. So many have opted to pay the fine.
    Why would they be concerned with deductibles? If the fine is less than the preimum then we are on the same page. However deductible costs really shouldnt matter. If they don't have insurance what will the do? My guess is they will do the same with the insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    Oh ok, so the lazy poor don't have to sign up, they just go to nearest Democratic HQ and get signed up for the freebies.

    I was under the impression everyone had to sign up less you were covered by a employer.
    Yes everyone does. The point was, the "lazy" poor received government assistance for healthcare long before the ACA came along. The ACA didn't create that group. And just remember, many of the "lazy" poor have children and if you took that assistance away from them, you'd have to take it from their children as well.

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    The first thing that should always be mentioned when discussing Obama's Presidency is the epic failure of Obamacare and how everyone knew when it was being put in place.

    Complete crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Yes everyone does. The point was, the "lazy" poor received government assistance for healthcare long before the ACA came along. The ACA didn't create that group. And just remember, many of the "lazy" poor have children and if you took that assistance away from them, you'd have to take it from their children as well.
    This is simply not true. Aid can be provided to the children without providing it to the parents.

    That is spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    This is simply not true. Aid can be provided to the children without providing it to the parents.

    That is spin.
    Ok. Let's pay that aid directly to a 5 year old. Let them go down and sign up for it, spend it, etc. the kids should be able to just fine if you cut the lazy parent(s) off. Anything done to the parents is going to affect the children. Conservatives labeling the poor as lazy, handout taking machines is spin too.

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    Some seem to be distracted in this thread. To get back on track, Obamacare has been a horrific burden to this country and nothing but a lie to get what the president wanted all along. Single payer. The amount of people this is hurting is so unjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Ok. Let's pay that aid directly to a 5 year old. Let them go down and sign up for it, spend it, etc. the kids should be able to just fine if you cut the lazy parent(s) off. Anything done to the parents is going to affect the children. Conservatives labeling the poor as lazy, handout taking machines is spin too.
    I was pointing out that your statement was false. It's still false.

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