Most illegal immigrant families receive welfare

I am not against helping the baby, who can't help they were born, but really something must be done to stop the wasteful spending on illegal immigrants, a long time ago when we encouraged immigration to help build our population and such was fine, but we live in a new overcrowded and poor economy. We shouldn't have to be burdened with paying these extra expenses..

Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare | Judicial Watch

Disturbing if true but not surprising. Is America great or what?

Let's do something, then. I was all for President George W. Bush's "guest worker" idea, am extremely pro "Dream Act" and think that we should put together a sensible plan to citizenship, but some scream their head off that we would be giving lawbreakers amnesty. So...we, instead, continue to do nothing.

Just curious, how does making them legal impact the issue brought up in this thread? Noted above:

"Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal."

Should that be a concern to taxpayers?

Does anyone know if the group issuing the report is legit?

Originally Posted by 75center

Just curious, how does making them legal impact the issue brought up in this thread? Noted above:

"Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal."

Should that be a concern to taxpayers?

Does anyone know if the group issuing the report is legit?

I would assume that guest workers would be inputting money into the system via taxes or some other type of payment, thus off-setting some of the expense.

I am not sure if you are asking about the source of the article, but certainly they have a strong bias against immigration.

Originally Posted by True blue (and gold)

I would assume that guest workers would be inputting money into the system via taxes or some other type of payment, thus off-setting some of the expense.

I'm not familar with the guest worker program so how does it differ from an imigrant appling for a work visa?

And as far as the thread goes, no non US citizen should be elligible for ANY government benefits.

Originally Posted by True blue (and gold)

I would assume that guest workers would be inputting money into the system via taxes or some other type of payment, thus off-setting some of the expense.

I am not sure if you are asking about the source of the article, but certainly they have a strong bias against immigration.

Legal or illegal immigration or as some on the left do you look at them as one and the same?

I do know some green card holders who are Mexican and they said all money made by them and illegals goes straight back to Mexico for their families.

I have no problem with that, take care of families.
BUT
I do have a problem with it being used to support Mexico businesses instead of ours.

And there is no solution.

Originally Posted by mountain ref

I do know some green card holders who are Mexican and they said all money made by them and illegals goes straight back to Mexico for their families.

I have no problem with that, take care of families.
BUT
I do have a problem with it being used to support Mexico businesses instead of ours.

And there is no solution.

All money doesn't go back to Mexico. The people we are talking about buy goods and services in the US.

If there truly is no solution (which I disagree with) then why even discuss it?

Originally Posted by True blue (and gold)

I would assume that guest workers would be inputting money into the system via taxes or some other type of payment, thus off-setting some of the expense.

I am not sure if you are asking about the source of the article, but certainly they have a strong bias against immigration.

That's what I was wondering.

Originally Posted by All Tell

Legal or illegal immigration or as some on the left do you look at them as one and the same?

The use of the term "anchor babies" readily gives away their bias.

No, I do not think that legal and illegal immigration is the same thing.

I do find it interesting that you feel mention that some on the left look at them as one and the same. I've seen someone on the right look at them as one and the same, however with a different view perhaps.

Originally Posted by woodsrider

I'm not familar with the guest worker program so how does it differ from an imigrant appling for a work visa?

And as far as the thread goes, no non US citizen should be elligible for ANY government benefits.

I'll look up the specifics on it and get back with you.

I believe that the article was referencing that children born to illegals in the US were receiving services, thus illegals benefiting from that.

Originally Posted by True blue (and gold)

All money doesn't go back to Mexico. The people we are talking about buy goods and services in the US.

If there truly is no solution (which I disagree with) then why even discuss it?

My uncle has some Mexicans who works for him and he buys the green cards and pays all services plus money, so in the case I know the Mexicans send their money back to Mexico.

Originally Posted by mountain ref

My uncle has some Mexicans who works for him and he buys the green cards and pays all services plus money, so in the case I know the Mexicans send their money back to Mexico.

He wouldn't be paying for their food, gas, lodging, heat, electricity, etc, if they weren't here working for him and if it wasn't part of the deal for their employment. Whether he buys their groceries at Wal-Mart or they do, the bottom line is that part of the monetary results of their employment is used in the US. Granted, they may send every other penny back to Mexico...which makes me wonder how bad things have to be "back home" to not use any money that you earn fr yourself here.

Originally Posted by True blue (and gold)

The use of the term "anchor babies" readily gives away their bias.

No, I do not think that legal and illegal immigration is the same thing.

I do find it interesting that you feel mention that some on the left look at them as one and the same. I've seen someone on the right look at them as one and the same, however with a different view perhaps.

What else would you call them when many (not all) where born here simply to give their parents a toe hold in this country? If their parents are deported for being illegal and the child goes with them then the only people they have to blame are the parents who had them here.

And I will say this those on the right that view illegal and legal immigration as the same thing are just as wrong headed as those on the right.

Originally Posted by All Tell

What else would you call them when many (not all) where born here simply to give their parents a toe hold in this country? If their parents are deported for being illegal and the child goes with them then the only people they have to blame are the parents who had them here.

And I will say this those on the right that view illegal and legal immigration as the same thing are just as wrong headed as those on the right.

I agree with your second paragraph.

To your first paragraph, how do we know that thy are born simply to give their parents benefits? How is that determined?

It's determined because All Tell says that it is .

In your little utopia do you really believe that there aren't illegals who game the system by having anchor kids to strengthen their claim to residency and benefits?

And since people get their undies in a bunch when a broad statement is made please note that I said many and specifically said not all.

Originally Posted by All Tell

In your little utopia do you really believe that there aren't illegals who game the system by having anchor kids to strengthen their claim to residency and benefits?

And since people get their undies in a bunch when a broad statement is made please note that I said many and specifically said not all.

I don't think that this specific reply was intended for me, but I will respond to the question.

I believe that very, very few people (illegal immigrants, those on government assistance or those that would get a tax break from it) have children that they don't want and don't plan to love and parent (even though some lack good or even acceptable parenting skills) and are instead doing it for a monetary or positional (for lack of a better term) benefit.

I think there are some things people aren't thinking of here. Everyone seems to equate "immigrant" with Mexican...illegal AND legal. This country accepts refugees from all nations. Here in Louisville, we are kind of known for our hospitality to recent immigrants. We've immigrant communities from Cuba, Somalia, Iraq, Vietnam, haiti, Cambodia and a host of other countries. They are resettled here, the largest number in Section 8 housing. They're helped to apply for welfare benefits such as medical cards and EBT cards. They're enrolled into ELSL classes, and every effort is made to find them jobs. Having worked with a large number of these individuals over the years, I can tell you that they are on benefits far less time than many birthed right here in the good 'ole U S of A. They're very proud, eager and excited to begin making their own way, and they do as quickly as possible. Of those I'm acquaited with, most have moved off the "rolls" within 5 years. A few are on longer, but usually due to circumstances not at all related to laziness.

So...yes...I can see where the core fact is correct. As usual, only looking at the surface, everyone wants to get all up in arms. No one wants to scratch the surface and see the lives of the REAL people who are the alleged "bad guys" in a story. It's so much more fun to be all stressed out and angry at what we want to think. So deflating to find out the truth.