Military Action in Syria as a Response to use of Chemical Weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    If Obama and or Hillary had done this we would be having a parade with everyone carrying a American Flag today singing America the beautiful.
    I'll give you the same invitation to tell me where I'm wrong that I gave to Capt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wireman View Post
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    Same for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Same for you.
    Oh yeah, how exactly does that apply to me?

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    Nice argument @Clyde.

    After the wreck of foreign policy we've had the past 2 decades. I'm not sure Americans can afford to be complicit anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    Really?!

    Trump's Syria Strike Was Unconstitutional and Unwise - The Atlantic

    2013 Trump felt differently.

    What justifies this according to the constitution? What makes Rand and others wrong?

    The more I read the more I think they are right.
    You only need congressional approval when going to war. This wasn't going to war, it was a single air strike. It has been hashed out the past few days by people who study the constitution and know how to interpret it. The conclusion was that it was not illegal, nor a violation of the constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    I am going to abstain from debating the validity of the missiles. Not smart enough to talk geopolitics and we don't know what the long-term plan is.

    What I am extremely cynical of is motive for the President. I don't buy that these dreadful pictures changed his mind. This is nothing new. 10s of thousands of kids have died over the years from Syrian attacking their own citizens. Do we think the President didn't know that? If he didn't, is that comforting? Is it comforting that pictures motivate the president?

    And this wasn't just 2013. He said it during 2016 when campaigning against HRC. NOW he is bothered ?

    I cast a jaundiced eye his way. This feels like a "look over there" decision to get us away from Russia and low approval ratings.

    So this move could be the EXACT move we need to make. I'm just not buying the reasoning used by POTUS.
    To be fair, prior to winning the election he did not have the classified information nor the top military generals in his ear providing him with information that we will never know. It's possible that now that he is "in the loop" so to speak, he feels differently about things than he did 4 years or even one year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDEaston View Post
    To be fair, prior to winning the election he did not have the classified information nor the top military generals in his ear providing him with information that we will never know. It's possible that now that he is "in the loop" so to speak, he feels differently about things than he did 4 years or even one year ago.

    His reasoning was the pictures he saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    I'll give you the same invitation to tell me where I'm wrong that I gave to Capt.
    Im not sure you have ever been wrong. But what does my comment have to do with what you said. My comment was as much truth as yours. Its sunny, my painting is almost done for the day and I dont feel like sparring. You win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    His reasoning was the pictures he saw.
    Well, classified information is meant to be kept secret. I know that some people have a hard time doing that, others say whatever it takes to keep it secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    I laid out my case so we could debate it. I said it may be the right move.

    Tell me what part of my logic you disagree with.
    All of it.

    Where you want to question why he did it. Can't fathom he did it because it needed to be done and it was the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDEaston View Post
    You only need congressional approval when going to war. This wasn't going to war, it was a single air strike. It has been hashed out the past few days by people who study the constitution and know how to interpret it. The conclusion was that it was not illegal, nor a violation of the constitution.
    And if Trump and his advisors thought an air strike was the right response, they certainly would not want to go to Congress to ask for permission for the strike. We learned how that goes in 2013.

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    Forget the politics - I believe the missile attack was a good response by Trump. When atrocities in violation of international law are committed, they should not go unpunished. I am very confident that Assad will think long and hard about using chemical weapons again. If this missile strike prevents further chemical weapons attacks, mission accomplished.

    Also, for those who may not be aware, current US rules of engagement consider a chemical weapon attack on the the US to be the same as a nuclear weapon attack and our response as an equal force counter attack is to use nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    All of it.

    Where you want to question why he did it. Can't fathom he did it because it needed to be done and it was the right thing.

    So you believe he didn't know kids had been gassed previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    So you believe he didn't know kids had been gassed previously?
    I can see why this forum keeps getting shut down. Anyone who thinks that we shouldn't have taken action after the recent chemical attack is lying to themselves. Honestly, I doubt anyone on here really believes that we shouldn't have taken action, yet lets still try and turn it into a political move just for the hell of it.

    After the attacks in 2013 they were supposed to give up the chemical weapons and Obama and his crew said that they did. Now in 2017 Assad uses chemical weapons once again. If this had happened at this time last year, I believe that even Obama would have taken similar action as Trump. But since Trump did, it's a political move? That's a joke, right?

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