Marriage Definition

I think there are two issues. The first is the legal rights conferred by marriage. I can't think of a compelling state interest in controlling the civil union of adults. The second is sacrimental marriage. To me, that is a matter for individual churches to establish for themselves.

Originally Posted by halfback20

Aren't all of the examples you listed forms of incest? I could be mistaken, but isn't incest illegal?

That is my point. If you want to take the argument that two consenting adults should be allowed to do what they want, than you open that Pandora's box of how are you going to say incest between two adults is illegal and wrong.

Originally Posted by halfback20

Aren't all of the examples you listed forms of incest? I could be mistaken, but isn't incest illegal?

Originally Posted by halfback20

Me neither. I don't feel it is my right to tell two adults whether or not they can get married.

Okay, you have NOW contradicted yourself in a short period of time.

You are for telling an adult brother and sister they CANNOT get married.
But are not for telling two adult males or females.

Which is it H20? Do you want to tell adults what they can do or not?

Originally Posted by cch5432

What LBBC is trying to get across, is if you believe that you shouldn't tell two adults whether or not they can get married, then why do you think it is OK to tell a brother and sister to not get married?

Isn't is possible that a child born through incest is more likely to have problems?

Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach

Okay, you have NOW contradicted yourself in a short period of time.

You are for telling an adult brother and sister they CANNOT get married.
But are not for telling two adult males or females.

Which is it H20? Do you want to tell adults what they can do or not?

First of all, you are dead wrong. I did not contradict myself. I asked a question. I asked if incest was illegal. Is it?

You should really try and read what I am saying rather than skimming it and thinking you "got me" on something.

Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach

That is my point. If you want to take the argument that two consenting adults should be allowed to do what they want, than you open that Pandora's box of how are you going to say incest between two adults is illegal and wrong.

Why is incest illegal? Is it because of health reasons for potential offspring?

What health problems does a homosexual relationship pose? Can you think of any?

Originally Posted by halfback20

Isn't is possible that a child born through incest is more likely to have problems?

Originally Posted by halfback20

Why is incest illegal? Is it because of health reasons for potential offspring?

What health problems does a homosexual relationship pose? Can you think of any?

I believe that homosexuality does pose health risks. For graphic nature, if you are curious, you can PM me, or search yourself.

I'm suprised no one has brought animals into this debate yet. That's usually where it goes when we try to point out the sins of homosexuality.

Originally Posted by halfback20

What about freedom of religion? If they believe that their religion is okay with homosexual marriage, and they can find a priest that believes the same thing, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a "religious marriage"?

Any "priest" that did that would be removed from his priestly duties by the church.

Originally Posted by halfback20

Isn't is possible that a child born through incest is more likely to have problems?

What if one of the partners is sterile?

^ The lid on Pandora's box cracks open a wee bit more...

delete...

Originally Posted by mcpapa

^ The lid on Pandora's box cracks open a wee bit more...

You are hilariously making my point.

Originally Posted by cch5432

I believe that homosexuality does pose health risks. For graphic nature, if you are curious, you can PM me, or search yourself.

I would love to know what health risks that homosexuality poses that heterosexuality doesn't. PM me and let me know.

Originally Posted by PepRock01

What if one of the partners is sterile?

I don't know. I do not claim to have all of the answers.

I have a question. Why do some people fight homosexual marriage so much? Honestly, what difference does it make to YOU whether two people are joined in marriage?

Here is another set of questions.

Is there a large demand of people wanting to marry their relatives?

Is there a large demand of people wanting to marry animals?

Basically what I am asking is, is there a need to even discuss whether or not marrying a relative/animal should be legal? I'm not aware of any Incest marriage movements.

Originally Posted by halfback20

Here is another set of questions.

Is there a large demand of people wanting to marry their relatives?

Is there a large demand of people wanting to marry animals?

Basically what I am asking is, is there a need to even discuss whether or not marrying a relative/animal should be legal? I'm not aware of any Incest marriage movements.

Not yet... emphasis on the yet.

Originally Posted by Plato

Not yet... emphasis on the yet.

Are you saying there will be? What evidence can you use to justify that assumption?

Originally Posted by Pancake

I don't think it is anyones business who someone marries. I don't see the harm and don't understand why to control someone who don't agree with.

The divorce rate does bother me, but I know you can't control that.

Religiously, I totally disagree with you.
In the case of a civil union, I'm with you.