Learning Respect For The Second Amendment, The Hard Way

OCALA - The Internet cafe patron who shot and injured two men as they tried to rob the business will likely not face any criminal charges.

“Based on what I have seen and what I know at this time, I don't anticipate filing any charges,” said Bill Gladson of the State Attorney's Office for 5th Judicial Circuit.

Gladson said he has reviewed the security surveillance video from the cafe. While he still awaits final reports from the Marion County Sheriff's Office, he said the shooting appeared justified.

Samuel Williams, 71, who fired the shots, has a concealed weapons permit, according to the Sheriff's Office. Under Florida law, a person is allowed to use deadly force if he or she fears death or serious injury to themselves or others. As long as the person isn't committing a crime and is in a place where he or she has a right to be, they are considered to be acting within the law.

Charges unlikely against man who shot robbers

Glad there will be no charges, the shots he appeared to take as the person ran out the door might have led him into some trouble if they had decided to charge him.

Good for him.

I give Grandpa credit, he kept after them, good for him. He seemed to make sure that he was careful with his shots and not just going all gun hoe after the criminals. How about they guy that is running beside grandpa like he is his side kick, lol.

Love it. Good job by the patron.

Hope these two do time.

Henderson and Dawkins

Originally Posted by plantmanky

I give Grandpa credit, he kept after them, good for him. He seemed to make sure that he was careful with his shots and not just going all gun hoe after the criminals. How about they guy that is running beside grandpa like he is his side kick, lol.

I was laughing about that too! Like he's saying, "WHAT?!? YOU DON'T WANT NONE OF THIS OLD GUY!"

What's also cool is that a 71 year old guy was hanging out in an Internet Cafe. That and shooting bad guys will keep him young.

This was a very serious incident but I couldn't help but laugh. I felt as though Mr. Williams was excited that he finally got to shoot at someone. I'm a gun advocate so don't take this the wrong way, just his body language, you could tell he was looking out for others but it just seemed like he was excited/glad he finally got to shoot someone. Glad everyone(not including the robbers) ended up ok.

With neither perp seemingly suffering life threatening injuries, I feel like it's more than fine to laugh at these two idiots getting what's coming to them from this old man.

Imbeciles.

Instant Message from Mr.Williams Facebook account...

Mr. Williams: Hey, I'll plow your fields for you Ms. Johnson
Ms. Johnson: I wasn't talking about Farmville
Mr. Willaims: Neither was I...hold on, some hoodlums just walked in...BRB
Ms. Johnson: Everything OK?
Mr. Williams: It is now, now when can I get at them fields

Combination internet cafe and shooting range franchises that cater to senior citizens.....

I see a new marketplace that needs some good entrepreneurs.

I have no issue with what he did but isn't it problematic from a legal sense that he continues to fire rounds as they are running out of the store? The one guy had fallen and was laying in a prone position and he squeezed off another round. Just curious.

Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel

I have no issue with what he did but isn't it problematic from a legal sense that he continues to fire rounds as they are running out of the store? The one guy had fallen and was laying in a prone position and he squeezed off another round. Just curious.

I have no problem with it. He could have loaded another clip and fired away as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel

I have no issue with what he did but isn't it problematic from a legal sense that he continues to fire rounds as they are running out of the store? The one guy had fallen and was laying in a prone position and he squeezed off another round. Just curious.

I would almost account to that action as adrenellin that is very hard to control once unleashed, especially in self-defense.

Originally Posted by Run To State

I have no problem with it. He could have loaded another clip and fired away as far as I'm concerned.

I'm with you. Two less criminals as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel

I have no issue with what he did but isn't it problematic from a legal sense that he continues to fire rounds as they are running out of the store? The one guy had fallen and was laying in a prone position and he squeezed off another round. Just curious.

That was my question. I would imagine if they guy had died it would become an issue.

Originally Posted by 75center

That was my question. I would imagine if they guy had died it would become an issue.

If there's a dead guy, then the investigation would have been a lot more in-depth and would have demanded a lot more from everyone involved... and rightly so.

Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel

I have no issue with what he did but isn't it problematic from a legal sense that he continues to fire rounds as they are running out of the store? The one guy had fallen and was laying in a prone position and he squeezed off another round. Just curious.

I also would have questioned that had the robber not been armed with a gun himself. Dude, your a 71 year old. That guy could have rolled over and popped off a round. I know I'm not taking that chance! Would you??? Curious.

Had one of these guys have died after being shot "in" the cafe'...how big of an issue would it be to you? What if it was the guy with the bat, not the guy with the gun, that died...would that be an issue?

I can see where people are applauding what he did, but I agree with the posters who feel that there very well could have been another ending.

We all know how I feel about guns. This doesn't change things for me.

Originally Posted by Lucky Charms

I also would have questioned that had the robber not been armed with a gun himself. Dude, your a 71 year old. That guy could have rolled over and popped off a round. I know I'm not taking that chance! Would you??? Curious.

They had already used the bat on a PC. Making it clear that they would use on people. One swing - a person can be killed. They had deadly force in their hands and showed a willingness to exercise it. So who cares if it was 'just a bat'. But it was not it was gun. That was being pointed at the man when he fired the first shot.

What happens if/when they find the gun on him before he uses it? Do you think they will ask him to surrender it in a polite manner? Or do they server up a home run on the man's temple or just shot him dead. He was forced to act before they realized he was armed.

Lots of what ifs. But, interestingly, this was a text book CCW incident. The man was controlled and shot as needed to eliminate the threat. Once they were out the door and no longer a threat inside he disengaged.

If the guy 'rolls over' inside and still his holding his weapon - he gets at least 2 more. Keep shooting until he is not holding the weapon or not moving.