Kentucky Board of Education Proposal to do away with District-Based Schooling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngbloods View Post
    I apologize if this has already been addressed, but even if students are allowed to go to the school they want, does the KHSAA have the authority to not allow that student to play athletics at that school?

    Yes, they would still have to adhere to KHSAA rules for transfers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Thanks, didn't it say the state and federal funding would follow the student if they moved? If so wouldn't that 40% go with them?

    As to your last comment, that is a shame that educators would be that shallow and albeit corrupt to not accept kids on a first come first serve basis...if what you think will happen actually happens.
    The 40% would but local districts have to make up the 60% If it were first come, first serve and all students really were treated equally, then no problem. Do you really think XYZ suburban high performing district wants to take gang member no credits 16 year old from low performing XYZ urban district. No way. Why do you think the feds from both parties threw lots of $$ at urban districts and somewhat isolated rural districts (when we all know $$ won't solve their main problems)? Because they wouldn't have to deal with them and could stay segregated socioeconomically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengal Maniac View Post
    The 40% would but local districts have to make up the 60% If it were first come, first serve and all students really were treated equally, then no problem. Do you really think XYZ suburban high performing district wants to take gang member no credits 16 year old from low performing XYZ urban district. No way. Why do you think the feds from both parties threw lots of $$ at urban districts and somewhat isolated rural districts (when we all know $$ won't solve their main problems)? Because they wouldn't have to deal with them and could stay segregated socioeconomically.
    Fair enough, but is 16 year old Gang Member really care where they go to school? I don't see the worst of the worst kids beating a path to transfer to a "Better/Harder" school. IMO that won't be much of an issue if it's an issue at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Yeah, because those areas struggle so much in sports today
    What I'm saying what if all the best basketball players in Fayette go to Dunbar and all of the football players go to Lafayette or Bryan Station the other schools could get really bad quick or say if this passes good players in Lexington could just go to Scott Co. for example. That's what I was saying. Also I think it will really hurt the smaller rural schools who may only have a good team ever so many years like in the 16th region maybe a kid from Menifee or Bath Co. could just go play at Rowan Co. I just personally think it will kill small schools ability to compete.

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    Here are a few articles on the proposed bill.

    FYI, if you have trouble with the article limits on certain websites, try right-clicking and opening the article and opening the link in an incognito window, which should bypass the issue.

    Heiner: Allow open enrollment for school districts

    Kentucky students could attend any district under Heiner plan | Lexington Herald-Leader

    Heiner education proposal raising eyebrows | News | dailyindependent.com

    Official proposes easing restrictions on out-of-district students | News | bgdailynews.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Fair enough, but is 16 year old Gang Member really care where they go to school? I don't see the worst of the worst kids beating a path to transfer to a "Better/Harder" school. IMO that won't be much of an issue if it's an issue at all.
    In general, probably not. But let's say gang member is a drug dealer. Where will that person sell more drugs? XYZ urban poor school or XYZ rich suburban school? There will be some that will want to. If I am school district XYZ suburban district. I will be full and not take anyone, regardless. Most won't, but I wouldn't keeps me less likely to be litigated.

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    Are any current schools in Kentucky using the "Open Enrollment"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardsrule1972 View Post
    Are any current schools in Kentucky using the "Open Enrollment"?
    Several, but it is more prevalent in NKY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Yes, they would still have to adhere to KHSAA rules for transfers.
    Ok, thank you.

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    Ok, I might be missing something, but I'm curious... If each school has to follow KHSAA rules anyway, why is this a big issue? Again, I must be missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Yes, they would still have to adhere to KHSAA rules for transfers.
    This is Heiner's quote on this subject.
    "Heiner also addressed the issue of student athlete participation in school athletics, saying, "A straight forward solution would give the student a choice of playing at their home school or red-shirt for their first year at the out-of-district school."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Builder1214 View Post
    This is Heiner's quote on this subject.
    "Heiner also addressed the issue of student athlete participation in school athletics, saying, "A straight forward solution would give the student a choice of playing at their home school or red-shirt for their first year at the out-of-district school."
    I don't like the wording of that. Does that mean they could attend the out of district school next year and play at the school for which they play this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Builder1214 View Post
    This is Heiner's quote on this subject.
    "Heiner also addressed the issue of student athlete participation in school athletics, saying, "A straight forward solution would give the student a choice of playing at their home school or red-shirt for their first year at the out-of-district school."
    Which is what is supposed to happen now, unless the "Valid Move" is verified then they can play right away.

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    I don't believe so. I think it means attend your home high school and play or go to out of district school and sit for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Professor View Post
    That's what I thought. I know I have a friend in Louisville that lives almost walking distance from Fern Creek but he sent his son to Male because of academic and baseball reasons.
    And I don't foresee the "home" school/magnet set up changing. At least, from what I see in this proposal, not much would change. A child would have a school designation based upon their residence. They can apply to attend another school, and based upon space, be accepted. There is nothing now that prevents the "cherry picking" that people are afraid of. What happens, happens naturally. In the end, I think it's a better way to do things, and I think the fears are a more because it's a largely unknown quantity outside of the metro areas.

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