How will POTUS react to the defeat of"skinny health care replacement" bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer.Pride View Post
    So where do you invest your limited time and money? To the person that is struggling to improve themselves, or the person that has decided he is a victim and has no need to improve himself because society is indebted to him?
    We already invest our money into many that don't or won't help themselves. Welfare programs for the impoverished will never be rolled back.

    What money is invested in those that haven't made 40K yet for their family of 4?

    What you said earlier is all our nation gives those who work hard but can't seem to get ahead: a boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Nope, and I didn't need a hug. I went out and tried my best, and while sometimes it didn't work out, many times it didn't. But you better believe my coach would have been there to give me a hug after it didn't work out, rather than turning his nose up because we had failed. You can't win every time, and hard work and effort doesn't always produce intended results. I get that you should do everything you can to better yourself. And there are many that don't. But not all poor people aren't trying and just taking the easy way and collecting a government check (which isn't exactly living high off the hog). Many are working their tails off just trying to stay afloat....additional schooling/training may not be an option. And many aren't in their situation simply because of a bad decision. Not every one can be a CEO or even a middle level manager. And while I agree trades are a great career option, access to those programs are often not free either. The disdain that some have for the person flipping our burgers/taking out the trash/washing dishes (or any other entry level, low paying job that I couldn't fathom doing, let along doing well) is troubling. As far as useless degrees, much of our entertainment, and culture is rooted in the arts. And while those "lesser" degrees may not mean much monetarily, the world would be a pretty drab and boring place with the contributions from the holders of those "lesser" degrees.
    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer.Pride View Post
    So where do you invest your limited time and money? To the person that is struggling to improve themselves, or the person that has decided he is a victim and has no need to improve himself because society is indebted to him?
    I'd love for the system to be able to easily recognize those that are taking advantage of it. Obviously in a perfect world, we'd only help those that truly need it and trying to better their lot in life. However, that's easier said than done, and I don't believe in cutting the system to many just to stop a few. The vast majority of these folks are working poor, and many are where there are at through no fault of their own...it's not always bad decisions, and so many of us are just one disaster from being added to this group. And don't forget, many of these people have children that would be negatively affected. I'd much rather take care of a few people that don't "deserve" the help just to make sure I was able to take care of everyone who does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer.Pride View Post
    So where do you invest your limited time and money? To the person that is struggling to improve themselves, or the person that has decided he is a victim and has no need to improve himself because society is indebted to him?
    I invest one person at a time, one life at a time, one story at a time as I encounter them. That doesn't really apply to the government angle. Just my own personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    I dont think like that at all and I voted for the Yellow haired monster. I think if someone really needs help then they should get it. If they make a living off receiving help then they need a job.
    Agreeing with Jesse. It's a new thing for me. I kinda like it.

    When listening to discussions of the new Dem slogan ("A Better Deal" - meh), I wondered to myself what would happen if they got radical and tried to beat the Republicans at their own "spin game" and adopted the right's old adage "Government - it's your safety net, not a hammock" as their slogan.

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