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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    I think that in circumstances like rape (not a 18yr boy and 17yr old girl whose parents are mad and get police involved even after she agreed to have sex) or potential death from having the baby it would have to be left up to the woman or family.

    If you just get pregnant on your own ignorance then you should have to have the baby and give it up for adoption at the least. I would almost be willing to be that more times than not if the woman goes through with it then she would want to keep it.

    I also think the man should have a say in it, it is after all his baby too. It has his DNA and genes. Maybe he doesnt want a woman killing his unborn baby

    Or maybe he doesn't want the woman to give birth to his yet-to-born devil-child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    Dems support a woman getting laid every night and if she gets pregnant go get an abortion, don't worry about responsibility or morals or a a little baby. then hey, go do the process all over again.


    That is their pro choice.

    Just crazy...AGAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    Rape isnt consensual recreational sex.
    You are saying it OK to murder a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    I think that in circumstances like rape (not a 18yr boy and 17yr old girl whose parents are mad and get police involved even after she agreed to have sex) or potential death from having the baby it would have to be left up to the woman or family.

    If you just get pregnant on your own ignorance then you should have to have the baby and give it up for adoption at the least. I would almost be willing to be that more times than not if the woman goes through with it then she would want to keep it.

    I also think the man should have a say in it, it is after all his baby too. It has his DNA and genes. Maybe he doesnt want a woman killing his unborn baby
    My body; my decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    How can I change a woman who is a mother to 2 great little kids and the birth will kill her. How can I make her die? I couldnt.

    But being easy then get pregnant or a woman who gets pregnant so she can get more welfare money. Yeah I would stop that.
    And yeah thats what Dems help support.
    But according to the pro-life argument, that mother's child is a life too. What makes the unborn child's life more important to than it's mother's life?? Why shouldn't that unborn child have an opportunity to live. Same thing with rape or incest. In either instance, you're devaluing the unborn child. I just don't believe you can be pro-life if you support any sort of abortion regardless of the reason.

    I also don't buy the argument that there are bunches of women out there getting pregnant simply to earn more welfare money. While there are maybe some, the belief that cutting benefits will magically stop them from reproducing, is silly. It would simply push women who make those reproductive decisions further into poverty. Otherwise you might as well say if your poor, you cannot have children. And also, what exactly is the argument here?? Are you arguing against abortion for those loose, poor women to teach them a lesson on morals? And then we turn around and not pay any more welfare benefits, to teach them a double lesson which is hurting the kids that we want to make them have. Regardless if these women are having abortions, then they aren't getting any additional benefits. And if they are having the kids for additional benefits, they aren't having abortions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawildcat View Post
    My body; my decision.
    So wrong
    It's not just your baby. It is also the mans, you didn't get pregnant by yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    You are saying it OK to murder a child.
    I never said that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Your first comment tells me that abortion isn't a priority for you when it comes to electing a president. I think that's true to most. Why then bring it up as an "issue" with HRC?
    Bingo! I abhor abortion but don't vote for presidents based on their stance on it. While the thought of killing an unborn baby makes me ill, I am not ready to throw a woman in jail if she does. I don't think my tax money should ever fund abortions but that is a different subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawildcat View Post
    My body; my decision.
    Your stance surprises me a bit Cat. So the man has no say in the future of his baby in your eyes??? It seems like it should be a joint decision to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggclfan View Post
    Your stance surprises me a bit Cat. So the man has no say in the future of his baby in your eyes??? It seems like it should be a joint decision to me.

    Her body, her decision. Discussing it with him is fine if they are so inclined to do so but the ultimate decision is hers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    I never said that
    That's exactly what you're saying. You're saying it's okay to kill the unborn child in cases of rape or incest. The rape or incest isn't the unborn child's fault. Why aren't you giving them the same chance as the unborn child of someone who just forgot to use protection?

    Either you're pro-life (meaning no matter the circumstances abortion is never an option) or you're pro-choice (meaning it's a viable option, even if only in very specific circumstances). Seems to me, you're in fact pro-choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    That's exactly what you're saying. You're saying it's okay to kill the unborn child in cases of rape or incest. The rape or incest isn't the unborn child's fault. Why aren't you giving them the same chance as the unborn child of someone who just forgot to use protection?

    Either you're pro-life (meaning no matter the circumstances abortion is never an option) or you're pro-choice (meaning it's a viable option, even if only in very specific circumstances). Seems to me, you're in fact pro-choice.
    Im PRO what is best for the mom and family if she has to have an abortion to save her life and not orphan her other babies.

    Im not pro life for someone who gets pregnant from stupidity.

    I also think if a woman has an abortion for any reason other to saver her life, she should have her tubes tied as she doesnt need kids.

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    Pro-choice all the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    Im PRO what is best for the mom and family if she has to have an abortion to save her life and not orphan her other babies.

    Im not pro life for someone who gets pregnant from stupidity.

    I also think if a woman has an abortion for any reason other to saver her life, she should have her tubes tied as she doesnt need kids.
    I'm with UKmustang. To me it's an all or nothing situation. Either you're pro life or not. You can't have exceptions...in the end, if you believe abortion is the killing of a life and is wrong, then there should be no valid reason to have an abortion. If you believe there are or should be exceptions, you are by definition pro-choice. Too many people confuse pro-choice with pro-abortion.

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