HIllary emails beyond top secret

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    ^ @Twotoplace,I did not know that. Now would you answer my questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    ^ @Twotoplace,I did not know that. Now would you answer my questions?
    Gladly.

    Q: "Do you have any qualms with Hillary using a private server for official state department emails?" A: Not really. If she had to do it all over, such probably wouldn't happen. I view this as a gray area. Powell did same. So did Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal and Rick Perry as governors. Hardly new.

    Q: "If it is shown that classified and/or top secret stuff was passed through her private server, what ramifications against her should ensue, if any?" A: No evidence such occurred. Also, I suspect that the "enemies of freedom" are reading everyone's emails, whether they're on private or State Department servers. And we're doing same, of course.

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    Missed one.

    Q: "Did she do something wrong and if so, what should the penalties be, if any?"

    A: She might have bent the rules involving State Department protocol, but as far as illegalities, this is a gray area and she'll either be exonerated or get a mulligan. There won't be any indictments.

    Listening to the right-wing fanatics on this board, one would have thought she got us involved in a land war in Asia under false pretenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    Missed one. Q: "Did she do something wrong and if so, what should the penalties be, if any?" She might have bent the rules involving State Department protocol, but as far as illegalities, this is a gray area and she'll either be exonerated or get a mulligan. There won't be any indictments.
    Non political related question are you a Louisville fan in any capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    Gladly.

    Q: "Do you have any qualms with Hillary using a private server for official state department emails?" A: Not really. If she had to do it all over, such probably wouldn't happen. I view this as a gray area. Powell did same. So did Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal and Rick Perry as governors. Hardly new.

    Q: "If it is shown that classified and/or top secret stuff was passed through her private server, what ramifications against her should ensue, if any?" A: No evidence such occurred. Also, I suspect that the "enemies of freedom" are reading everyone's emails, whether they're on private or State Department servers. And we're doing same, of course.
    Thanks for the honest answers, Twotoplace. You kinda fudged on the second one but I can tell from what you said that you don't think there should be any ramifications or punishment for her actions if it is borne out that she did indeed do what she is accused of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    Colin Powell also used a private email server for public business.
    We all forget George and Dick hiding and deleting emails on a RNC server. We have a precedent on how to deal with these: do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    We all forget George and Dick hiding and deleting emails on a RNC server. We have a precedent on how to deal with these: do nothing.
    Unless it's an election year and a "D" is involved. That ups the ante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    Thanks for the honest answers, Twotoplace. You kinda fudged on the second one but I can tell from what you said that you don't think there should be any ramifications or punishment for her actions if it is borne out that she did indeed do what she is accused of.
    I'm not clear what she's been accused of. By whom? What would an indictment say? Lots of wild talk of treason on these threads. The ramifications will be borne out at the ballot box, won't they? "Punishment" would come if there's an indictment, trial and guilty verdict. I think Newt Gingrich said the odds of an indictment are one in three. You can read between the lines on that one as well as me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    I have an honest question for those who would normally identify themselves as being left of center.

    Do you have any qualms with Hillary using a private server for official state department emails? If it is shown that classified and/or top secret stuff was passed through her private server, what ramifications against her should ensue, if any?

    If you don't believe she used the private server for any classified/secret government material, say so.

    It is obvious that many conservatives on BGP believe she used her private server for official government stuff that was classified or secret and they think this rises to the level of criminal behavior. I am curious about the view of the progressives/liberals on BGP. Did she do something wrong and if so, what should the penalties be, if any?

    I will say, that the facts of the case are still not known. This is a hypothetical dealing with whether you think she did and if she did what does justice require.
    OG, here's my take.

    1. I do not have any qualms of her using her email server at that time. If there were classified emails at the time, which we have yet to see and may never, I still believe this is the threshold where SOS or equal level bureaucrat will not get away with this again. Like TTP said a gray area.

    2. I believe she used her email for info that is classified now. Classified then...I don't think so.

    3. I'm not even sure she broke protocol in 2008. There is a point when she should have been told you will not recieve emails on that server, if this was of huge importance.

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    #3 is a good point. Surely they could restrict who is able to receive such information on the outgoing end of things, like only approved email addresses are accepted as recipients of email with classified content. I'm not an IT guy, but that shouldn't be too hard to0 do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    Colin Powell also used a private email server for public business.
    Colin POWELL had A Private email AND government email he used. The difference being there were no rules put in place against it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    Thanks for the honest answers, Twotoplace. You kinda fudged on the second one but I can tell from what you said that you don't think there should be any ramifications or punishment for her actions if it is borne out that she did indeed do what she is accused of.
    You asked for left of center to answer didn't you ? He's so far left you can't see him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    OG, here's my take.

    1. I do not have any qualms of her using her email server at that time. If there were classified emails at the time, which we have yet to see and may never, I still believe this is the threshold where SOS or equal level bureaucrat will not get away with this again. Like TTP said a gray area.

    2. I believe she used her email for info that is classified now. Classified then...I don't think so.

    3. I'm not even sure she broke protocol in 2008. There is a point when she should have been told you will not recieve emails on that server, if this was of huge importance.
    To answer #3 she was told. That is documented . The Obama administration did not know she was using the server. She hide it from them as well.

    There is no grey area. If it is determined there were emails top secret or higher on that server she will be prosecuted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    IDK maybe...
    Danger to public safety: 1 death and 1 slow response to a lost child due to the closure.
    Might be a pretty close analogy because common sense will tell you an unexpected bridge closure would put drivers and public health in danger.
    Not to mention Christie adminstration tinkered with the independent investigator

    Complicit? That's a little much.

    Leave Crispy Christie in though. I could care less.
    Why bring him into the conversation if you care so little? Oh, that's right, you need someone to be your red herring as you deflect and ignore Hillary's criminal issues. By the way, the term you likely wanted to use is 'I could NOT care less', which would indicate that you care so little, it would not be possible to care any less about something. 'I could care less' is a pretty useless statement in the context which you used it. Just saying...

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    The greatest tragedy of all is these men dying to protect a country that had turned its back on them. Several times the men at Benghazi begged for help ... and no one came. Regardless, of the emails, one thing is for sure Hillary failed to protect our fallen men.

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