Hillary declares she is IN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science Friction View Post
    Conservatives come closer to ruining America and the world , in my opinion. With that aside, however, I will support her over anything the GOP runs out but I would prefer Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Neither of them are likely to get the nomination, so I'll go with the one most likely to be the next President, HRC.
    This is what is wrong with the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter how bad the candidate, toe the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Professor View Post
    The Democrats probably could run Bozo The Clown and win the White House. The electoral college has shifted so much in the past 10 years that the Republicans are fighting an uphill battle before the race even starts. They've pretty much have most of the big populated states in their corner. California, New York, and the northeastern states are automatics, and some of the others that once were Republican, such as Florida, are now trending Democratic.

    I truly don't think the Republicans can win regardless who they run, and regardless of how poor a candidate or race the Democrats run. The demographic landscape has changed and I don't see it shifting much in the foreseeable future.
    Hence the need to either revamp the Electoral College or do away with it completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    This is what is wrong with the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter how bad the candidate, toe the line.
    There seems to be a over-emphasis on this board for "voting for the person" as opposed to voting for the party. I don't buy that. How is one supposed to know, for instance, who the "better person" is among, say, Bush, Perry and Christie? Has any been convicted of felonies? I suppose that's a start. Then what questions should one ask?

    No, party platform is most important with me, at least in races for president and Congress. Science Friction is right. I also will support HRC over anything I've seen thus far from the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    Hence the need to either revamp the Electoral College or do away with it completely.
    Republicans lose either way. Don't forget ... Gore got more votes than GWB did in 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    There seems to be a over-emphasis on this board for "voting for the person" as opposed to voting for the party. I don't buy that. How is one supposed to know, for instance, who the "better person" is among, say, Bush, Perry and Christie? Has any been convicted of felonies? I suppose that's a start. Then what questions should one ask?

    No, party platform is most important with me, at least in races for president and Congress. Science Friction is right. I also will support HRC over anything I've seen thus far from the GOP.
    Hillary is a proven liar.

    I will support ANYONE over HRC, be it Democrat, Republican or some third party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotoplace View Post
    Republicans lose either way. Don't forget ... Gore got more votes than GWB did in 2000.
    They may. Still doesn't change the fact that the Electoral College has it's flaws. Why should anyone in Kentucky vote? It really doesn't matter. With only 8 electoral votes, we are beating our head against the wall, no matter who we vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    Maybe third time is a charm and I'll type real slow, how many illegals have voted? You made the claim, please support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    Maybe third time is a charm and I'll type real slow, how many illegals have voted? You made the claim, please support it.
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    Until you believe it can happen then there is no sense in arguing. I would like to think it didn't or don't happen but Democrata are ao desperate and power hungry they are willing to do whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    Hillary is a proven liar.

    I will support ANYONE over HRC, be it Democrat, Republican or some third party.

    Name me one who doesn't lie. They all do. In fact, in many cases, they must. If Obama really wasn't a Christian, could he say as much. If Chris Christie or Jeb Bush really wasn't a passionate pro-lifer , could they say as much and have any chance of even receiving the nomination? If being honest was a requirement for winning political office, there would be no one to hold office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science Friction View Post
    Name me one who doesn't lie. They all do. In fact, in many cases, they must. If Obama really wasn't a Christian, could he say as much. If Chris Christie or Jeb Bush really wasn't a passionate pro-lifer , could they say as much and have any chance of even receiving the nomination? If being honest was a requirement for winning political office, there would be no one to hold office.
    That's the problem, in a field of liars she stands out as a liar...

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    To abolish the Electoral College would need a constitutional amendment, and could be stopped by states with as little as 3% of the U.S. population.

    Instead, by state laws, without changing anything in the Constitution, The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country.

    Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. No more distorting and divisive red and blue state maps of pre-determined outcomes. There would no longer be a handful of 'battleground' states where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 80% of the states that now are just 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.

    The bill would take effect when enacted by states with a majority of Electoral College votes—that is, enough to elect a President (270 of 538). The candidate receiving the most popular votes from all 50 states (and DC) would get all the 270+ electoral votes of the enacting states.

    The bill has passed 33 state legislative chambers in 22 rural, small, medium, large, red, blue, and purple states with 250 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 11 jurisdictions with 165 electoral votes – 61% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InItToWinIt View Post
    I find it interesting how Hillary gets so much support, especially from feminists. I mean, the way that she became famous was because her ex-husband became President. She came to be known by her husband's accomplishments. Is that not the opposite of feminism?

    Also IMO she has shown poor leadership and her "HillaryCare" plan for health care, which was a failure, is like the grandparent of Obamacare which many people still don't consider successful.
    Ummm...I'm leaving most of this alone for now, but Bill and Hill are still married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    Ummm...I'm leaving most of this alone for now, but Bill and Hill are still married.
    True, they are still married but my guess is it is more of a "corporate merger" than a marriage...but I could be wrong. Bill cannot be trusted any more than Tiger Woods and Hillary seems to have the coldest disposition of anyone...ever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggclfan View Post
    True, they are still married but my guess is it is more of a "corporate merger" than a marriage...but I could be wrong. Bill cannot be trusted any more than Tiger Woods and Hillary seems to have the coldest disposition of anyone...ever...
    Given my track record, I'm not about to judge any one else's marriage. None of my business.

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    I don't know your track record (and don't care) but I agree that it is none of our business.

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