Bob Dole: Ted Cruz worse for GOP than Donald Trump

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    Bob Dole: Ted Cruz worse for GOP than Donald Trump

    Bob Dole: Ted Cruz worse for GOP than Donald Trump
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    Who will be the next former Republican Presidential candidate to voice their dissatisfaction with the current Republican field? McCain? Romney? Folks.....Dole, McCain, and Romney are three of the worst candidates in history. They do NOT get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeyondDriven View Post
    Who will be the next former Republican Presidential candidate to voice their dissatisfaction with the current Republican field? McCain? Romney? Folks.....Dole, McCain, and Romney are three of the worst candidates in history. They do NOT get it.
    And Trump and Cruz are better than those three? I'm listening.

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    While I will always admire Bob Dole for his service to our country, it's sort of funny hearing his claim that someone is a bad Republican candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    And Trump and Cruz are better than those three? I'm listening.
    Yes they are.

    Here's how bad I thought Dole was, I voted for Bill.

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    Depends on your view. Bob is an establishment Repub. He wants the establishment guys to win. Cruz and Trump aren't.

    Trump is a one shot deal. He wins he serves; he loses he's back to building hotels and the Republican Party lives to fight another day.

    But it seems like Dole believes Cruz has no shot and he will be a plague on the Republican house for years to come: Attempting to run and win, shutting down the government, and acting like a pain in the rear. Not to mention Cruz is liked by his side of the voting aisle, but has few friends in Washington that would want to help out once he got there.

    Dole is right on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcats View Post
    Depends on your view. Bob is an establishment Repub. He wants the establishment guys to win. Cruz and Trump aren't.

    Trump is a one shot deal. He wins he serves; he loses he's back to building hotels and the Republican Party lives to fight another day.

    But it seems like Dole believes Cruz has no shot and he will be a plague on the Republican house for years to come: Attempting to run and win, shutting down the government, and acting like a pain in the rear. Not to mention Cruz is liked by his side of the voting aisle, but has few friends in Washington that would want to help out once he got there.

    Dole is right on this one.
    I don't think Cruz has many GOP friends in Congress. That's Dole's point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    Yes they are.

    Here's how bad I thought Dole was, I voted for Bill.



    Gotcha.

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    Anyone know of a link to a site that tried to estimate how close Dole might have been in 1996 if Perot hadn't been in the race? If I remember right, he took about ten percent of the vote in a lot of states that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getslow View Post
    Anyone know of a link to a site that tried to estimate how close Dole might have been in 1996 if Perot hadn't been in the race? If I remember right, he took about ten percent of the vote in a lot of states that year.
    If I recall correctly, the analysis was that Perot had no impact on the final result. His voters were split equally. Half would have voted for Clinton and half would have voted for Dole.

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    How old is Bob Dole? I didn't even know he was still living. He was old when he ran against Clinton. Congratulations to him for hanging in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    How old is Bob Dole? I didn't even know he was still living. He was old when he ran against Clinton. Congratulationse to him for hanging in there.
    Senator Dole is 92.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capt278 View Post
    Yes they are.

    Here's how bad I thought Dole was, I voted for Bill.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getslow View Post
    Anyone know of a link to a site that tried to estimate how close Dole might have been in 1996 if Perot hadn't been in the race? If I remember right, he took about ten percent of the vote in a lot of states that year.
    Perot received 8 million votes nationally. Dole lost by 8 million votes. There's no way all 8 million would have voted for Dole. So Perot running didn't really matter other than to provide some comic relief.

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