What if Kids Choose to Sit/Kneel for the Pledge of Allegiance?

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    Genuine question here....What's the rationale behind the Pledge being said every day in schools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    Sad that certain people today require reminders.
    I don't do it as a reminder for anyone. It is a way for me to honor my father.

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    I have two students in my home room who sit every morning. I wonít comment on the kids themselves.

    From my perspective, I simply said make sure youíre doing this for reasons you really believe in and arenít searching for attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True blue (and gold) View Post
    I don't do it as a reminder for anyone. It is a way for me to honor my father.
    No I get that part, I do the same. I went to a funeral last week for a friend who served in Vietnam. He had a beautiful flag on this coffin. That’s why I stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    The vast majority of the time it's more about "Look at me" than it is a genuine protest, at least that is my opinion. The worst thing that you can do is to call them out or try to force them to stand or conform in some way. I'd ask them, one on one, what the issue was and if they wanted to discuss it. I would not give them an open classroom forum to disrupt class. If after speaking to them, I felt there was a teachable moment then and only then would we discuss it in class. Otherwise I'd let them "Protest" in silence and not draw any additional attention to it.
    What would you require before allowing there to be a discussion?

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    What number is higher?

    % of kids that kneel that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why

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    % of kids that stand that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why?

    I'd argue that the kids that kneel have at least given it some thought.

    If we think kids are standing to be patriotic or for their love of country we're kidding ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelPops View Post
    What number is higher?

    % of kids that kneel that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why

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    % of kids that stand that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why?

    I'd argue that the kids that kneel have at least given it some thought.

    If we think kids are standing to be patriotic or for their love of country we're kidding ourselves.
    The only difference is everyone stood from 09-17. Then some people stand today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    The only difference is everyone stood from 09-17. Then some people stand today.
    That's not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    That's not true.
    How isn’t it? Do you have anything to support it other than hearsay? People who love America always stand, regardless of which 8 year cycle it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    The only difference is everyone stood from 09-17. Then some people stand today.
    Great. Now what’s the answer to my question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    How isn’t it? Do you have anything to support it other than hearsay? People who love America always stand, regardless of which 8 year cycle it is.
    I've seen it with my own eyes. Every sporting event you go to there are people sitting, and there always has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    People who love America always stand, regardless of which 8 year cycle it is.
    Do you stand for the anthem when you're watching a sporting event on TV and it plays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelPops View Post
    Great. Now what’s the answer to my question?
    “Look at me.” “Maybe this will go viral.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I've seen it with my own eyes. Every sporting event you go to there are people sitting, and there always has been.
    Hearsay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Do you stand for the anthem when you're watching a sporting event on TV and it plays?
    I have before, it’s different at home vs. at a game when they say “please rise and honor America.” It’s a poor analogy but even those who are sitting at home are listening to the song and respecting the moment. Plenty of people heard Fergie from their sofas.

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