The R word: Who is accusing who? Surprise!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    Again you are jumping to conclusions. I am not against the private schools.
    I can tell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdsfan
    I can tell!
    I don't think you really do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    I don't think you really do.
    Okay Ram!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    Well my tithe money gave seed money for your football field. And I have no problem with that. I am not saying that it is something you should be ashamed of at all you are taking that the exact wrong way. I am saying that without having to play Southern, Seneca, Ballard, and others you could be going to play more Males, Warren Centrals (IND), Lexington Catholics, Highlands, Elders, MBA's and others and I am saying that you have the resources to do it. You should be proud of that, not snipeing at me that we should have to pay for your travel.

    Your tithe money gave us seed money for the football field? No way! Your tithe money would have given us money for the land acquisition, which now are parking lots, or maybe the new computer lab, or the new classroom buildings. But not the football field.

    I'll fight back and snipe when I feel pot shots are taken, and I most definitely feel you've been taking pot shots at us since this issue began. It's interesting that you want to keep one foot on each side of the fence, saying you don't support the proposal, but do support the school's endorsement of it. That's classic double-speak. And then strategically dart a little comment about Manual's own division in the Science Fair to try and a make a point, when you know full well that athletic competitions and science fairs are not apples to apples.

    Interesting that way back in the political debates during the election, you jabbed at me telling me that an Independent is for people who [sic]are indecisive and/or college students[sic], yet now you are displaying exactly the attributes you so graciously assigned to me. The fact of the matter is, this IS an issue to take a stand upon. Maybe you can't see it; again, your school has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain from what's proposed. I would respect your arguments, though, if you would just take the side of the public schools and drop the "I don't support the proposal, but I support my school's endorsement of it". Granny always said "Poop or get off the pot". Well, she didn't say poop....

    Your school has absolutely nothing to lose in this. Once it's done, it's done, and there's no going back for the private schools. Maybe one day, there will be some sort of attack on academia, and you'll understand a little better. Who knows. Maybe you'll just waltz your way to a perennial #2 in the state in football, and be content with that. Frankly, once the result is known, and I found out what the Board of Control does, I'm done with this topic forever. I've fought the "good" fight...I've done all I can do. Unfortunately there are too many short-sighted, biased people who expect that everything be 100% equal across the board for everyone. At the point that those who supported these proposals realize that there is still a heck of a lot of disparity statewide and then try to figure out what else can be done...I'll just watch and laugh.

    You may have the last laugh for the moment, maybe even years, Ram. In the end though, this issue will rise again....and again....and again...until what we call high school athletics is such a debacle it's laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdsfan
    Okay Ram!
    I am not against the private schools I think that they are a boon to the community in many ways, they take away from the local tax burden, they provide competition at all levels to raise the bar for the public schools. And they allow for a Christ centered education option.

    Rockmom I have taken a stand. I am against prop 20. I am sorry if I have taken any "pop shots" that was not my objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    Your tithe money gave us seed money for the football field? No way! Your tithe money would have given us money for the land acquisition, which now are parking lots, or maybe the new computer lab, or the new classroom buildings. But not the football field.

    I'll fight back and snipe when I feel pot shots are taken, and I most definitely feel you've been taking pot shots at us since this issue began. It's interesting that you want to keep one foot on each side of the fence, saying you don't support the proposal, but do support the school's endorsement of it. That's classic double-speak. And then strategically dart a little comment about Manual's own division in the Science Fair to try and a make a point, when you know full well that athletic competitions and science fairs are not apples to apples.

    Interesting that way back in the political debates during the election, you jabbed at me telling me that an Independent is for people who [sic]are indecisive and/or college students[sic], yet now you are displaying exactly the attributes you so graciously assigned to me. The fact of the matter is, this IS an issue to take a stand upon. Maybe you can't see it; again, your school has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain from what's proposed. I would respect your arguments, though, if you would just take the side of the public schools and drop the "I don't support the proposal, but I support my school's endorsement of it". Granny always said "Poop or get off the pot". Well, she didn't say poop....

    Your school has absolutely nothing to lose in this. Once it's done, it's done, and there's no going back for the private schools. Maybe one day, there will be some sort of attack on academia, and you'll understand a little better. Who knows. Maybe you'll just waltz your way to a perennial #2 in the state in football, and be content with that. Frankly, once the result is known, and I found out what the Board of Control does, I'm done with this topic forever. I've fought the "good" fight...I've done all I can do. Unfortunately there are too many short-sighted, biased people who expect that everything be 100% equal across the board for everyone. At the point that those who supported these proposals realize that there is still a heck of a lot of disparity statewide and then try to figure out what else can be done...I'll just watch and laugh.

    You may have the last laugh for the moment, maybe even years, Ram. In the end though, this issue will rise again....and again....and again...until what we call high school athletics is such a debacle it's laughable.
    Don't drop out too soon Rockmom. After the Board of Control there is still the Education Department. After that there will be the state legislature. And I shouldn't leave the courts out of it. They will be important too. I think that we are just at the beginning of the fight. I plan to make every polititian aware that there will be a price to be paid for this. I'll begin with the Jefferson County school board and move on to the legislature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity alum
    Don't drop out too soon Rockmom. After the Board of Control there is still the Education Department. After that there will be the state legislature. And I shouldn't leave the courts out of it. They will be important too. I think that we are just at the beginning of the fight. I plan to make every polititian aware that there will be a price to be paid for this. I'll begin with the Jefferson County school board and move on to the legislature.
    Exactly this will not come to pass. I have been saying this since the beginning and that is what I believe. Maybe that is why I am not taking this as seriously as some of you. I don't think the sky is falling just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    Exactly this will not come to pass. I have been saying this since the beginning and that is what I believe. Maybe that is why I am not taking this as seriously as some of you. I don't think the sky is falling just yet.

    It may not come to pass THIS time, but do you REALLY think that the public schools will not try this again as soon as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    It may not come to pass THIS time, but do you REALLY think that the public schools will not try this again as soon as possible?
    I think that really depends on how the Public Schools do on the field in the next few years. I don't think it is right, just like I don't think it is right the way they go after the Magnet schools come CATS test scoring time. But that is the way it is, saddly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    Exactly this will not come to pass. I have been saying this since the beginning and that is what I believe. Maybe that is why I am not taking this as seriously as some of you. I don't think the sky is falling just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    Exactly this will not come to pass. I have been saying this since the beginning and that is what I believe. Maybe that is why I am not taking this as seriously as some of you. I don't think the sky is falling just yet.
    That's awfully easy to say when the sky won't be falling on you and in fact you stand to benefit from the sky falling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell
    That's awfully easy to say when the sky won't be falling on you and in fact you stand to benefit from the sky falling.
    I hope you aren't accusing ram95, one of THE most intellectually honest people that I have ever met in my life, of being dishonest on his opinion. Not just because I don't think you should, I'd just hope you'd have a better argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockMom
    Personally, I'll think the entire "R" word will have more merit when schools are complaining about losing Merit Sholars and Governor's Scholars. I mean, that is what educational institutions are about, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by hicknick
    You've got it right, but $3,000,000 for a football field when Catholic schools are closing? I know it's private donations.
    hicknick, if you are going to post a fact, why not post the entire fact. In the last 12 years or so, Trinity has invested over 10 MILLION DOLLARS in upgrading its academic facilities. Only when this was complete, did Trinity decide to spend a little under 2.5 million to replace a stadium that was so old there were safety concerns and a lawsuit or two over injuries. I would say that is a school which as it priorities well in place.

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    Not at all.

    But I do think that it's a whole lot easier to say stuff like don't worry, this won't happen, etc etc when the reality is that if it does happen you won't be affected or that you may even benefit.

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    I for one think that a Louisville only forum should be started on BGP , after reading all the recent posts in this thread .

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