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    As I have said numerous times. I don't know the answer, but I am sure that prop 20 is not the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    I agree that there are public schools that have made nice runs. But the facts are that since 1995, 17% of the KHSAA membership has won 41% of the state championships.
    So is it your opinion that every KHSAA member is entitled to a championship???

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    Didn't want to waste space by simply quoting all of AWNP's post.

    I have conceded and think that the support of the parents is the BIGGEST difference between private and public schools. And it is one of the biggest reasons for the success of private schools and those individuals and teams in a public school that finds success. Public schools have them just not in the quantity that private schools do.

    And yes, OSW, I have taken money out of my pocket to buy things for my players. And I almost lost my family because of the time I spent with other people's kids and not my own. I cannot do that anymore. I can't be the parent for all of my players whose parents don't want to be their parent. That is not all, but some, if not most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell
    So is it your opinion that every KHSAA member is entitled to a championship???
    Just like little league. Give everyone a participation trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell
    So is it your opinion that every KHSAA member is entitled to a championship???
    This is statement is so ridiculous that I refuse to respond except to say, "I refuse to respond."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    Didn't want to waste space by simply quoting all of AWNP's post.

    I have conceded and think that the support of the parents is the BIGGEST difference between private and public schools. And it is one of the biggest reasons for the success of private schools and those individuals and teams in a public school that finds success. Public schools have them just not in the quantity that private schools do.

    And yes, OSW, I have taken money out of my pocket to buy things for my players. And I almost lost my family because of the time I spent with other people's kids and not my own. I cannot do that anymore. I can't be the parent for all of my players whose parents don't want to be their parent. That is not all, but some, if not most.

    Like I said after you kick out the privates, the parents in my kids school still care more than the parents in most other public schools and as a result we are going to be better at whatever we choose to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird
    Like I said after you kick out the privates, the parents in my kids school still care more than the parents in most other public schools and as a result we are going to be better at whatever we choose to do.
    No doubt and I agree. Not sure if this is the answer. Not sure what is, but know the system as is, does not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    No doubt and I agree. Not sure if this is the answer. Not sure what is, but know the system as is, does not work.
    Why doesn't it work?

    I can promise you what happens on the athletic field isn't that much different than what happens in corporate America. The playing field is not level and those with advantages are the ones who are more apt to succeed.

    Life is not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    This is statement is so ridiculous that I refuse to respond except to say, "I refuse to respond."
    But you have made such an issue of 17% of the schools have won 50% of the championships. You sound as if you think a certain number of schools are entitled to championships.

    Now what happens in your world if the privates are forced out and a small number of public schools start winning most of the championships. Do you then try to force them out because they are winning "more then their share" of the championships?

    Tell me, what is a "fair" percentage of championships that private schools should win?

    How many times has a private schools directly eliminated your team from contention for a state championship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell
    But you have made such an issue of 17% of the schools have won 50% of the championships. You sound as if you think a certain number of schools are entitled to championships.

    Now what happens in your world if the privates are forced out and a small number of public schools start winning most of the championships. Do you then try to force them out because they are winning "more then their share" of the championships?

    Tell me, what is a "fair" percentage of championships that private schools should win?

    How many times has a private schools directly eliminated your team from contention for a state championship?
    Bottom line is that public schools feel that athletes can "pool" at private schools from neighboring counties that will not happen at a public school. They feel that gives private schools an unfair advantage.

    Again I will use the girls bball example of LexCath. From my understanding only one of their top 7-8 last season was FROM Fayette County. I believe most would agree that it is great that those girls' parents want their daughter to get a good education and are concerned about their welfare. It is great that they can attend LexCath.

    But I also think that most would agree that those same athletes coming from counties surrounding Fayette County would not have "pooled" at one of the Lex public schools if Lex Cath did not exist.

    So Lex Cath has an advantage and a well earned advantage that the public schools do not have. And to ask a public school to compete against something they cannot really accomplish is unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell
    But you have made such an issue of 17% of the schools have won 50% of the championships. You sound as if you think a certain number of schools are entitled to championships.

    Now what happens in your world if the privates are forced out and a small number of public schools start winning most of the championships. Do you then try to force them out because they are winning "more then their share" of the championships?

    Tell me, what is a "fair" percentage of championships that private schools should win?

    How many times has a private schools directly eliminated your team from contention for a state championship?
    More times than I wish had happened.

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    Male , Highlands, Boyle, Danvile, Beechwood, and a few others are drueling over how their trophy cases are going to increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird
    Why doesn't it work?

    I can promise you what happens on the athletic field isn't that much different than what happens in corporate America. The playing field is not level and those with advantages are the ones who are more apt to succeed.

    Life is not fair.
    And I could post the same response.

    What happens on the athletic field is not much different that what may happen at the KHSAA delegate assembly. The playing field in passing the proposal is not level. The advantages in numbers lay to the public schools. And those with numbers are more apt to succeed and pass the proposal.

    Sorry, life is not fair.

    Doesn't feel good to not have the advantages on your side does it? That is how the public schools are feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    No doubt and I agree. Not sure if this is the answer. Not sure what is, but know the system as is, does not work.
    Well the answer certainly isn't to kick out the privates, and then kick out the wealthier publics that are now winning everything, and then kick out the slightly above middle class publics that are now winning everything.........

    Why does the system have to "work"? How can it ever "work"?

    Outside of taking money and volunteer time out of the pockets of the wealthier private/public schools parents and sending it to the not as wealthy non-volunteering areas of the state what can be done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    And I could post the same response.

    What happens on the athletic field is not much different that what may happen at the KHSAA delegate assembly. The playing field in passing the proposal is not level. The advantages in numbers lay to the public schools. And those with numbers are more apt to succeed and pass the proposal.

    Sorry, life is not fair.

    Doesn't feel good to not have the advantages on your side does it? That is how the public schools are feeling.
    The problem is public schools are hurting themseleves.

    When CCH when kicked out can offer the best athletes in NKY more national exposure, some publics are going to be losing some athletes.

    Privates will survive, its just a shame it has to end in such a manner, of outright fear and jealousy.

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