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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    You mean DNA results don't take 2 hours to get like on TV?
    Seems like people here think this is an episode of some stupid crime drama. These cases arent exactly easy to solve with very little information to go on.

    It might be solved in 2 years, 5 years, or never...but i guarantee they are doing everything they can to solve it. No one wants a murderer free to do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    Seems like people here think this is an episode of some stupid crime drama. These cases arent exactly easy to solve with very little information to go on.

    It might be solved in 2 years, 5 years, or never...but i guarantee they are doing everything they can to solve it. No one wants a murderer free to do it again.
    I am sure we all agree on this. I am guessing none of us agree it should take two or five years. However, I also am concerned that this is where agencies get caught up in their shorts due to overwhelming workload, multiple important crimes to solve, and clues get overlooked because all the available or potential resources are not brought to bear. And "everything they can do" is restricted to available funding and consequent personnel resources which have limits as we all know. I believe it is doubtful that this person is a local. I often wonder if this picture is circulated, say in Michigan or Northern Indiana or Illinois with the same coverage that we may see it, and is it still being circulated? If Chicago police get a tip, how soon can they follow up when they are dealing with local crime?

    I only fear a reoccurrence of Jean Benoit Ramsey.

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    I hope they rot in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doomer View Post
    I am sure we all agree on this. I am guessing none of us agree it should take two or five years. However, I also am concerned that this is where agencies get caught up in their shorts due to overwhelming workload, multiple important crimes to solve, and clues get overlooked because all the available or potential resources are not brought to bear. And "everything they can do" is restricted to available funding and consequent personnel resources which have limits as we all know. I believe it is doubtful that this person is a local. I often wonder if this picture is circulated, say in Michigan or Northern Indiana or Illinois with the same coverage that we may see it, and is it still being circulated? If Chicago police get a tip, how soon can they follow up when they are dealing with local crime?

    I only fear a reoccurrence of Jean Benoit Ramsey.
    I didnt say it should take 2 or 5 years. I said it could. Id put money down that says they are following up on all credible leads, and they are doing everything possible to solve the case, especially since the FBI is involved as well.

    The Ramsey case will never be solved because, imo, someone already in the house killed her and the parents did their best to make it as difficult as possible on law enforcement.

    In fact, a grand jury indicted the parents but the prosecutor didnt go forward with charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    Seems like people here think this is an episode of some stupid crime drama. These cases arent exactly easy to solve with very little information to go on.

    It might be solved in 2 years, 5 years, or never...but i guarantee they are doing everything they can to solve it. No one wants a murderer free to do it again.
    I can't tell you how many people I know who watch way too much of those crime dramas and have wild expectations that what happens in that tidy 43 minutes (not counting commercial breaks), is decidedly how it works in the real world, where there are budgets and bureaucratic supervisors to answer to, as crazy as that sounds.

    I had a buddy absolutely fighting mad that I would dare suggest that a particular PD wouldn't throw all of its top resources at one case (at the expense of doing nothing on the dozens of others they're working on concurrently) in order to get that thing solved fast. "Nope, that's how it's done," he insisted, as I called bullhockey.

    I have no way to prove it definitively, but anecdotal evidence would lead me to bet the number of students enrolling in fields such as forensic science has gone through the roof in the past decade. Probably at its highest levels since Quincy M.D. was on TV regularly. Or at least since the X-Files' heyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schue View Post
    I can't tell you how many people I know who watch way too much of those crime dramas and have wild expectations that what happens in that tidy 43 minutes (not counting commercial breaks), is decidedly how it works in the real world, where there are budgets and bureaucratic supervisors to answer to, as crazy as that sounds.

    I had a buddy absolutely fighting mad that I would dare suggest that a particular PD wouldn't throw all of its top resources at one case (at the expense of doing nothing on the dozens of others they're working on concurrently) in order to get that thing solved fast. "Nope, that's how it's done," he insisted, as I called bullhockey.

    I have no way to prove it definitively, but anecdotal evidence would lead me to bet the number of students enrolling in fields such as forensic science has gone through the roof in the past decade. Probably at its highest levels since Quincy M.D. was on TV regularly. Or at least since the X-Files' heyday.
    Our high school actually has a Forensics class now for a science elective, letting kids kind of dip a toe in to that field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    You mean DNA results don't take 2 hours to get like on TV?
    The good ones do it in one hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doomer View Post
    I am sure we all agree on this. I am guessing none of us agree it should take two or five years. However, I also am concerned that this is where agencies get caught up in their shorts due to overwhelming workload, multiple important crimes to solve, and clues get overlooked because all the available or potential resources are not brought to bear. And "everything they can do" is restricted to available funding and consequent personnel resources which have limits as we all know. I believe it is doubtful that this person is a local. I often wonder if this picture is circulated, say in Michigan or Northern Indiana or Illinois with the same coverage that we may see it, and is it still being circulated? If Chicago police get a tip, how soon can they follow up when they are dealing with local crime?

    I only fear a reoccurrence of Jean Benoit Ramsey.
    Unfortunately it happens more than we realize. Here's a local case to me that will likely never be solved thanks to some botched earlier work.

    Kidnapping, Murder and Mayhem: Short Family Murders Still Unsolved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    Unfortunately it happens more than we realize. Here's a local case to me that will likely never be solved thanks to some botched earlier work.

    Kidnapping, Murder and Mayhem: Short Family Murders Still Unsolved
    Interesting story...thanks for sharing.

    On a similar note, same kind of things going on in Bardstown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doomer View Post
    Interesting story...thanks for sharing.

    On a similar note, same kind of things going on in Bardstown.
    There are more of these than people realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    There are more of these than people realize.
    Open Cases: Why One-Third Of Murders In America Go Unresolved : NPR

    Over 1/3 go unsolved in 2015. I doubt the last year was better.

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    Investigators believe they're getting closer to solving Delphi murders
    It's been just over eight weeks since the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were found near a trail in Delphi.

    Police said they're still receiving around 100 tips every day.

    Our sister station in Indianapolis, WTHR, said investigators think they're getting closer, and are confident they will solve the case.



    Makes me feel like they have a pretty good idea who they are looking at/for at this point.

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    Interesting comment at the bottom of that article

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    So one could wonder if they are holding him on the parole violation thinking they will eventually find evidence that he committed the murders. It's a theory.

    If they have DNA evidence, wouldn't it be easy enough to test against his? Thus far the landowner has been dismissed as a witness, and that could be his picture, which could even be bad news if it is determined that he did not participate because then there is no video of a possible suspect.

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