Students Educated in Active Shooting in Schools?

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    Students Educated in Active Shooting in Schools?

    My kids have been out of school awhile, so this surprises me. A woman I work with said that her children are taught what to do in the case of an active shooter by their teachers. One thing they are told is to jump out windows, run and scatter because clumps of students increase casualties. Kindergarten teachers are told to throw students out the window as fast as they can (yes, literally throw). They were taught that any injury a kid might sustain from a first or second story window is less risk than hiding in a classroom like sitting ducks.

    This sounds crazy to me, though I guess current events make it necessary. Those of you who have kids in school, does your school teach your kids what to do?
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    Oops! The thread was supposed to say Students Educated in Active Shooting in Schools.

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    Most schools that I'm aware of have a shelter in place plan. Lock the door, cover the window in the door and move kids to an area out of view from the window.

    On some levels going out the windows makes sense, but I've never heard of tossing kids out of second story windows before.

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    I've been through the active shooter training. The message was always "Run or fight." We keep the doors locked and the lights off during the drills and I was taught to look for weapons to use.

    Another thing was that if they are in the building, then they have already made their decision. There is not talking them down or primary targets, they will shoot anyone regardless of age. Hiding under the desks is a bad idea. Run away, throw things, and fight.

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    Many school districts have moved to ALICE training, when it comes to Active Shooters. This basically adds a counter attack component to Lockdown, Barricade, and Escape (which is the more traditional method).

    Can't say in my line of work that I've heard of anyone teaching the method of tossing kids out windows, especially from a 2nd floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Most schools that I'm aware of have a shelter in place plan. Lock the door, cover the window in the door and move kids to an area out of view from the window.

    On some levels going out the windows makes sense, but I've never heard of tossing kids out of second story windows before.
    I repeatedly asked this mom, “throw them out?” and she insisted that is what the teacher said. She added “as fast as they can.”

    Perhaps she or the teacher embellished. The image of kids flying out the windows just doesn’t seem right.

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    We, via the Kentucky State Police Active Shooter Training, train to run if you can, hide and barricade next, and then fight if you have to. The State Police do train you to scatter in the room and not cluster. They learned from Sandy Hook that clustering probably cost more children their lives.

    I have never heard in any training to throw kids out of the window. Once you lockdown in the room you wait for some authority to unlock the door and direct you what to do next.

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    I've had some kids I wanted to toss out of the window.
    All this time I could have and just said we were conducting an active shooter drill.

    In all seriousness, I've never heard of that.

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    I've never been told to throw students out a window. But then again, I've never had a window in my classroom.

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    Teacher friend told me part of the training is to throw books or whatever they have at the shooter. Causing him to deflect them.
    I found it odd at first, but makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Teacher friend told me part of the training is to throw books or whatever they have at the shooter. Causing him to deflect them.
    I found it odd at first, but makes sense.
    That would be the "fight" part of ALICE training.

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    Fill your backpack with as many textbooks as possible and put in on backward over your chest. I've seen videos where three books can be enough to stop an AR round from a close distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Fill your backpack with as many textbooks as possible and put in on backward over your chest. I've seen videos where three books can be enough to stop an AR round from a close distance.
    Doesnt that defeat the purpose if you are running away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Doesnt that defeat the purpose if you are running away?
    He didn't say that they would be running away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Doesnt that defeat the purpose if you are running away?
    Where did I say anything about running away? If you are in a classroom put it on your front to protect yourself in case the shooter makes entry into your room. It's not perfect but it is something.

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