South Carolina Officer Charged With Murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    What if he was trying to get the gun from the Cop?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    He wasn't trying to get the gun from the cop when he was shot...
    Exactly. As far as a defense of the officer fearing for his own safety that threat ended well before a shot was fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Fair point, but we are missing the first part of what happened, which could be key.
    No, it isn't key. It doesn't matter if he beat he cop up during an altercation beforehand. He was running away, unarmed and was no threat to the cop or anyone else at that point. If he were running away with a knife or gun it could be questioned. In this case it doesn't matter what happened before. The policeman executed the victim by shooting him 8 times in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfan41 View Post
    Simply a hypothetical sense you couldn't think of a circumstance in which it was justified. What if the guy thinks the officer is after him for a crime he committed that the officer is unaware of. In the altercation leading up to the shooting the guy says I can't believe they ratted me out I'm going to kill them all and anyone that tries to stop me. Then runs away..... Again this is just a hypothetical but you can't say there's absolutely no circumstances in which it can not be justified.

    I don't believe this is at all what happened here I was just saying there are some circumstances that can change things.
    If the guy isn't armed and the officer knows that he isn't armed which, from your scenario he'd have to, then he can't just shoot him in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    What if he was trying to get the gun from the Cop?
    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    If the guy isn't armed and the officer knows that he isn't armed which, from your scenario he'd have to, then he can't just shoot him in the back.
    How does the officer know he isn't armed in the scenario I suggested? Just because he didn't use a weapon on the officer? Did the officer pat him down and check for weapons in my scenario, because I don't recall mentioning that.

    Let's be honest too there are SOME folks that want to kill certain people but know that starting with an officer won't get them far.

    AGAIN. This is just based off of a previous comment. I IN NO WAY FEEL/THINK this is what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Read my post, not arguing that the officer was wrong. but just saying we do not know what went down. The original criminal in this case did not heed the warning of an officer of the law and was gunned down. If he stops, listens, does what he is told-- does he get shot in the back?
    You are kidding, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfan41 View Post
    Simply a hypothetical sense you couldn't think of a circumstance in which it was justified. What if the guy thinks the officer is after him for a crime he committed that the officer is unaware of. In the altercation leading up to the shooting the guy says I can't believe they ratted me out I'm going to kill them all and anyone that tries to stop me. Then runs away..... Again this is just a hypothetical but you can't say there's absolutely no circumstances in which it can not be justified.

    I don't believe this is at all what happened here I was just saying there are some circumstances that can change things.
    Cops can't kill someone based on what they might have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexitucky View Post
    You are kidding, right?
    Nope!
    So you are thinking if the guy stops, does what the office says he would still have been shot by the cop in the back?
    Guess the cop was having a bad day and felt like shooting someone in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Nope!
    So you are thinking if the guy stops, does what the office says he would still have been shot by the cop in the back?
    Guess the cop was having a bad day and felt like shooting someone in the back.
    If he didn't flee, he wouldn't have been shot. However, would have have been tasered? When he fled, did he put the officer's life at risk? When he got the taser out of the officer's hand, had he tried to use it against him? The answer is "we don't know," "no," and "no."
    Did you watch the video? He did feel like shooting a guy in the back, b/c he did exactly that. He had everything that he needed to get a warrant and arrest the guy at his house. At worst, he impounds his new ride that would cover some of the non-payment at auction. Instead, he executed him. If you and I were in similar situations, we get into a fight and the other guy runs away from you, and you shoot a fleeing person, you have now become the aggressor and you have comitted homicide. This is no different.

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    We are talking about a non-violent offender here. Absolutely no reason to be executed in cold blood like that. The officer was not in danger whatsoever.

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    There is absolutely no defense of this officer's actions, yet some still are trying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexitucky View Post
    If he didn't flee, he wouldn't have been shot. However, would have have been tasered? When he fled, did he put the officer's life at risk? When he got the taser out of the officer's hand, had he tried to use it against him? The answer is "we don't know," "no," and "no."
    Did you watch the video? He did feel like shooting a guy in the back, b/c he did exactly that. He had everything that he needed to get a warrant and arrest the guy at his house. At worst, he impounds his new ride that would cover some of the non-payment at auction. Instead, he executed him. If you and I were in similar situations, we get into a fight and the other guy runs away from you, and you shoot a fleeing person, you have now become the aggressor and you have comitted homicide. This is no different.
    So you do agree with me to the bolded? And you agree with me we do not know what happened prior to the video. Yes, I did watch the video and the cop did wrongfully shoot a man in the back. Never said anything other than that. Not sure why you have any issues with what I posted. Just saying if the offender would have obeyed demands, he would probably be alive today and the cop would not be heading to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    So you do agree with me to the bolded? And you agree with me we do not know what happened prior to the video. Yes, I did watch the video and the cop did wrongfully shoot a man in the back. Never said anything other than that. Not sure why you have any issues with what I posted. Just saying if the offender would have obeyed demands, he would probably be alive today and the cop would not be heading to jail.
    My issue is that fleeing was a minor thing. It appears, and if this is not your intention then I apologize, that you are attempting to obscure the true issue here. Yes, if he does not flee, then this event probably does not happen. You are correct there. However, he did flee, and that is the crux of the matter. He fled and was executed. There was a moment for the cop to collect his thoughts as the man started taking off, and he decided to end the man's life. Fleeing does not excuse that action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexitucky View Post
    My issue is that fleeing was a minor thing. It appears, and if this is not your intention then I apologize, that you are attempting to obscure the true issue here. Yes, if he does not flee, then this event probably does not happen. You are correct there. However, he did flee, and that is the crux of the matter. He fled and was executed. There was a moment for the cop to collect his thoughts as the man started taking off, and he decided to end the man's life. Fleeing does not excuse that action.
    So he did flee but why was he executed and not chased down by the cop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    So he did flee but why was he executed and not chased down by the cop?
    That was my point. His fleeing is issue 1. Issue 2 is why the officer is going to trial for murder.

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