Separation Poll

**Jesse James** · Feb 6, 08, 09:26 PM

Vote yes or no and nobody can see your vote.Someone maybe thought that because the other thread was public that it might have a effect on people voting. This poll is private. Have at it.

**Jesse James** · Feb 7, 08, 09:00 PM

Everyone needs to vote!

**rockmom** · Feb 7, 08, 09:03 PM

I did!

**RockPride** · Feb 7, 08, 09:48 PM

I voted to keep it the same, more for the state's benefit as a whole, as I think Trinity Football would flourish if they were forced to seperate.

**KyTmcNcc** · Feb 7, 08, 11:30 PM

I voted to stay the same . The school that I support and you can tell by my screen name that it is NCC has been around in one form or another since the early 1940's . At least that is as far back as the alumuni page on their web site goes . It has been getting students from basically the same parochial grade schools through its 60+ years of history .They are still getting students from the same schools and I'd bet that these schools are all within a 10 mile radius of NCC . A lot of the students that go there now are the children and grandchildren of alumuni and they are not doing anything different now than what their parents or grandparents were doing 10 ,30,50 years ago except winning . Where were the complaints and the push for seperation when the privates weren't winning . Where were the complaints about a " level " playing field then . There were none !!!

**pnthr4life** · Feb 7, 08, 11:41 PM

I voted to keep it the same. Being from Ludlow I've seen alot of kids leave and go to CCH or HC and others. I'm not going to tell you it doesn't hurt to see these kids leave, but we have always fielded competitive teams and will continue to do so.

**DMZ76** · Feb 8, 08, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by RockPride

I voted to keep it the same, more for the state's benefit as a whole, as I think Trinity Football would flourish if they were forced to seperate.

Yeah...they're floundering so much now!

**TonyDanza** · Feb 8, 08, 09:02 AM

I voted for separation. I want to see what happens after the seperation and what will be whined about next!

**ladiesbballcoach** · Feb 8, 08, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by TonyDanza

I voted for seperation. I want to see what happens after the separation and what will be whined about next!

If it is simply straight public/private split, I think open enrollment schools would be next.

**StickerMann** · Feb 8, 08, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by TonyDanza

I voted for seperation. I want to see what happens after the seperation and what will be whined about next!

I'm guessing the independents and county schools with open enrollment, followed by a call for classes??

**Pepper II** · Feb 8, 08, 09:53 PM

More than forty years later I still recall one thing that was taught to me in the public school in forth grade.
There is "a rat" in separate.

That, btw, is a spelling comment, not a social one.

**Gunner11** · Feb 9, 08, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jesse James

Everyone needs to vote!

Not exactly the result you were expecting huh???

**Birdsfan** · Feb 9, 08, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Gunner11

Not exactly the result you were expecting huh???

Just shows that, across the state, the support for separation is more "local and vocal" than it is substantial.

**Jesse James** · Feb 9, 08, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Gunner11

Not exactly the result you were expecting huh???

I started this poll because it was said in another thread that some might not vote in a poll that was public. I full well expected this result. I have stated time and time again I am against seperation. I however know the results of the vote when presented to the delegates on prop 20.

**Birdsfan** · Feb 9, 08, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jesse James

I dont understand what the vote was for prop 20 statewide when presented to the delegates, not message board posters.

I think the poll clearly states the statewide opinion. In fact, it's probably a little generous to the separation side.

**Jesse James** · Feb 9, 08, 09:52 PM

What I am saying that when the vote on the seperation was presented to the delegates state wide it passed by a overwhelming majority. I also believe that if it were voted on again, it would pass by even a bigger margin by the delegates from each respective school representive.

**mcpapa** · Feb 11, 08, 03:01 PM

It appears that the percentages in this BGP poll are just about the opposite of how the delegates voted.

**KyTmcNcc** · Feb 11, 08, 03:20 PM

And the percentages have remained fairly consistent over the 5 days that the poll has been in existence .

**BuddyBW** · Feb 11, 08, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by mcpapa

It appears that the percentages in this BGP poll are just about the opposite of how the delegates voted.

So from this comment and the results of the poll, can we assume that the delegates did not vote the way that the people desired?

**Bluegrasscard** · Feb 11, 08, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by BuddyBW

So from this comment and the results of the poll, can we assume that the delegates did not vote the way that the people desired?

It probably reflects a major flaw with the structure of KHSAA. It is an orginization that is created by the state legislator with the intent of managing and promoting HS athletics. So in the end the KHSAA belongs (or should belong) to the people of Kentucky. However, it clearly is run as a 'coaches association' since it seems only coaches and ADs make up the voting function of KHSAA. 'The people' are not part of KHSAA organization and do not have a voice.

As this poll appears to show - ordinary parents and ordinary students and the interested public in general are not in favor of some positions championed by a majority of coaches and ADs. What is good for coaches and ADs is not necessarily good for the students and the people of Kentucky. The rebuke of Prop 20 and then of Prop 2 when they reached the overseers clearly shows that.