Public-private split cries out for compromise

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If their referendum was rash, it only reflected the profound frustration that comes from too many seasons on a steeply pitched playing field. And there's no getting around it - that's what we're talking about.

It's the same almost everywhere. Some states - Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, New York, New Jersey - keep their kiwis and kumquats in separate crates. Some respond to the inequities by imposing enrollment multipliers on the schools that are not restricted to public districts. Others, like Ohio, carry on the dialogue.


More often than not, recruiting comes up as a nefarious aspect of it all. But illegal recruiting is difficult to prove, and legal recruiting - attracting students, as private and parochial schools must - is not the essence of the issue. The fact is that schools such as Trinity, St. Xavier (both of Louisville) and Lexington Catholic don't have to recruit athletes. In these days of rampant AAU and select clubs - most prevalent in basketball, soccer and volleyball - a city's or region's top players, neighbors or not, commonly gravitate toward the unbounded high schools that can accommodate them

Compromise has already been voted down once, when the membership defeated a proposal that would confine a school's eligible athletes to those within a 20-mile radius of the building. It's imperative, however, that the quarreling parties sit down again, and stay at it until the common good has been agreed upon

What is your suggested compromise????

Originally Posted by All Tell

What is your suggested compromise????

Others that are more knowledgeable and smarter than me on these matters will have to make that compromise suggestion. I just know where we were and where Prop 20 would take us are equally unacceptable.

I thought Mr. Wheeler did a pretty good job in the article.

Any "compromise" will call on concessions by the privates but nothing from the publics. Therefore, don't call it a "compromise". Instead, be honest and either call it the "private concessions" or the "public affirmative action compact".

Originally Posted by StThomasMore

Any "compromise" will call on concessions by the privates but nothing from the publics. Therefore, don't call it a "compromise". Instead, be honest and either call it the "private concessions" or the "public affirmative action compact".

I have been consistent in saying if a territorial boundary is the answer, it should be put into place for public schools as well as privates.

I started a thread asking people to come up with suggestions. It didn't get a lot of play.

How about using a 20 mile radius for both the publics and the privates? For those publics and privates located near the border with other states, allow the radius to include that part of the neighboring state. That would only be fair. Also, make no further restrictions on foreign exchange students than presently exist.
In addition, accept the practice of many private schools in giving financial assistance to needy students (both athletes and non-athletes) . However, have the allocation of aid determined by a private and independent source (Rose Hill and many others do this now) through the submission of confidential applications. This is not favoring the private schools because, through the various and sundry governmental programs (at all levels of government), this is already being done in the public schools through resource centers, free and reduced lunches, etc. There is really no difference between aid through tuition assistance and aid through the providing of free goods and services.
This is not a perfect plan (humans don't formulate perfect plans). However, it is a reasonable compromise.

Originally Posted by scooterbob

How about using a 20 mile radius for both the publics and the privates? For those publics and privates located near the border with other states, allow the radius to include that part of the neighboring state. That would only be fair. Also, make no further restrictions on foreign exchange students than presently exist.
In addition, accept the practice of many private schools in giving financial assistance to needy students (both athletes and non-athletes) . However, have the allocation of aid determined by a private and independent source (Rose Hill and many others do this now) through the submission of confidential applications. This is not favoring the private schools because, through the various and sundry governmental programs (at all levels of government), this is already being done in the public schools through resource centers, free and reduced lunches, etc. There is really no difference between aid through tuition assistance and aid through the providing of free goods and services.
This is not a perfect plan (humans don't formulate perfect plans). However, it is a reasonable compromise.

I may be mistaken (that's happened once before ), but I think that's a KHSAA requirement in determining financial aid. I know Trinity, X, Assumption & Sacred Heart do it that way.

Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach

I have been consistent in saying if a territorial boundary is the answer, it should be put into place for public schools as well as privates.

I think that the private schools proposed this as a compromise. They asked for a few things. One, it would only apply to the big private schools. This would avoid hurting really small schools like Portland Christian. Second, it would not apply to recognized feeder schools. There is a big problem in telling kids in religious schools that they cannot continue in religious schools without giving up sports. I think that an exemption from the 20 mile rule for kids that are continuing in a faith based school makes sense. The third thing they asked for was that the rule only apply to varsity sports. I'd suggest giving that one away.

Originally Posted by rockmom

I may be mistaken (that's happened once before ), but I think that's a KHSAA requirement in determining financial aid. I know Trinity, X, Assumption & Sacred Heart do it that way.

All the Catholic High Schools in NKY do it that way too.

If, as it appears, the majority of the private schools already submit information for financial aid to an independent entity (as, indeed, the KHSAA requires), I would hope the public schools would acknowledge this fact.
So far, neither side has "shot" holes in my suggested compromise. For anything to truly work, both sides must give. All of the giving should not be done by the private schools. Also, as I said before, no compromise can be or will be perfect.
I would add that any student who lives outside the 20 mile radius of the school he or she is presently attending should be exempt from this rule as long as that student is in the seventh grade or higher. It would be prejudicial to subject those students to what would be, in essence, an ex post facto rule.

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Originally Posted by scooterbob

If, as it appears, the majority of the private schools already submit information for financial aid to an independent entity (as, indeed, the KHSAA requires), I would hope the public schools would acknowledge this fact.
So far, neither side has "shot" holes in my suggested compromise. For anything to truly work, both sides must give. All of the giving should not be done by the private schools. Also, as I said before, no compromise can be or will be perfect.
I would add that any student who lives outside the 20 mile radius of the school he or she is presently attending should be exempt from this rule as long as that student is in the seventh grade or higher. It would be prejudicial to subject those students to what would be, in essence, an ex post facto rule.

Good points Scooter Bob