LA Evacuee is Ruled Ineligible to Play for Holy Cross

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml007
    How is this the KHSAA's fault? Lets everyone call some evacuees and recruit them to our schools and then pay for their tuition. I feel for the kids in Louisiana, but he could attend any non-parochial school for free. Maybe he should go to Holmes. That would be free.

    There should have been a window of opportunity to be ruled eligible if you are an evacuee. That window needs to be closed. The tragedy happened a few weeks ago. If they were going to evacuate and be ruled eligible for football they should have arrived at the school a couple weeks ago. Letting kids become eligible at any time during the season leaves room for some real shady recruiting opportunities. I don't feel this is the case in this situation, but a public education is free.


    Yes the hurricane was a couple of weeks ago, but he disaster is far from over. I don't think any of us would like to know that we had two weeks to start over in our lives. This , as stated by others , is not recruiting. I t is compassion. This should be bigger than football rules. There are still hundreds of kids who can't even go to school. Let this kid play. It was not even possible for travel the first few days so how can you ask the kids to be enrolled when they couldn't even move. Come on
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml007
    Like I stated in my post. I do not think this is a situation of recruiting LA players.
    I also think to say a kid should be able to go to a private school and not have to pay anything is crazy. Would the parish/school community try to raise the money for a non-athlete?
    I don't know the answer to that, but IMO the answer would be no.
    Again I feel for the kid and parochial schools are at a disadvantage in receiving evacuees.
    The answer is go to a public school for free.

    Why would it be ok to let him play immediately for a public school, but not a parochaial school?

    Why would the parish/school community try to raise money for ANY kid? It's only their Christian mission. But, we wouldn't want to put common decency into this equation, would we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    Why would the parish/school community try to raise money for ANY kid? It's only their Christian mission. But, we wouldn't want to put common decency into this equation, would we?
    You go, girl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    Why would it be ok to let him play immediately for a public school, but not a parochaial school?

    Why would the parish/school community try to raise money for ANY kid? It's only their Christian mission. But, we wouldn't want to put common decency into this equation, would we?
    Because it goes right along with what the KDE says about enrolling students into schools. Are parochial schools tied to the Kentucky Department of Education?
    The KDE is waiving the typical things needed to enroll into a new school, such as a bonafide address and personal records, since they are deemed "homeless".
    Now since public schools are essentially free to those who attend within the district, the kid would be granted eligibility.
    Now if the student decides to go to a parochial school, then that student must pay tuition to gain access into the school.
    I would assume the fundraising portion goes against the "scholarship" situation that comes up from time to time, be it a booster or whatever.
    I can see where the KHSAA has ruled him ineligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml007
    Like I stated in my post. I do not think this is a situation of recruiting LA players.
    I also think to say a kid should be able to go to a private school and not have to pay anything is crazy. Would the parish/school community try to raise the money for a non-athlete?
    I don't know the answer to that, but IMO the answer would be no.
    Again I feel for the kid and parochial schools are at a disadvantage in receiving evacuees.
    The answer is go to a public school for free.

    Why should the family have to do this when they desire a Catholic education?

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    I'm on the fence here. My question is, why can't the kid go to Holmes if he really wants to play football? If it's not about football, than don't play and get your Catholic education. What the KHSAA is doing is the same thing everyone usually complains about them not doing. They're making it a level playing field. On the other hand, does it matter to the KHSAA if a kid goes to private school for free? I agree with them by not letting someone in the Holy Cross community pay for his tuition but if the Diocese waved his tuition because of his circumstances is it really the KHSAA's business?

    Bottom line though, he's got a free high school that he can play football at (if he so desires) less than five minutes away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letabrotherspeak
    Because it goes right along with what the KDE says about enrolling students into schools. Are parochial schools tied to the Kentucky Department of Education?
    The KDE is waiving the typical things needed to enroll into a new school, such as a bonafide address and personal records, since they are deemed "homeless".
    Now since public schools are essentially free to those who attend within the district, the kid would be granted eligibility.
    Now if the student decides to go to a parochial school, then that student must pay tuition to gain access into the school.
    I would assume the fundraising portion goes against the "scholarship" situation that comes up from time to time, be it a booster or whatever.
    I can see where the KHSAA has ruled him ineligible.

    I have to say that I'm disappointed that this is the way people think. The boy was in Catholic school in Louisiana, and it's obvious that it's important to his family to continue a Catholic education despite the circumstances.

    It's heartbreaking enough for these families, without having to deal with the bias of the Kentucky school systems. There's obviously only compassion up to the point that a family chooses a public school for their child. There MUST be some ulterior motive involved if the family would choose a Catholic education for their football playing son. I could almost understand the uproar if the kid had been enrolled at Trinity or X, but Holy Cross?!

    Maybe it is time for a Public/Private split....It's obvious that the missions of the two educational choices are widely disparate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    I have to say that I'm disappointed that this is the way people think. The boy was in Catholic school in Louisiana, and it's obvious that it's important to his family to continue a Catholic education despite the circumstances.

    It's heartbreaking enough for these families, without having to deal with the bias of the Kentucky school systems. There's obviously only compassion up to the point that a family chooses a public school for their child. There MUST be some ulterior motive involved if the family would choose a Catholic education for their football playing son. I could almost understand the uproar if the kid had been enrolled at Trinity or X, but Holy Cross?!

    Maybe it is time for a Public/Private split....It's obvious that the missions of the two educational choices are widely disparate.
    RM, he's not being denied a Catholic education, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickymitts
    I'm on the fence here. My question is, why can't the kid go to Holmes if he really wants to play football? If it's not about football, than don't play and get your Catholic education. What the KHSAA is doing is the same thing everyone usually complains about them not doing. They're making it a level playing field. On the other hand, does it matter to the KHSAA if a kid goes to private school for free? I agree with them by not letting someone in the Holy Cross community pay for his tuition but if the Diocese waved his tuition because of his circumstances is it really the KHSAA's business?

    Bottom line though, he's got a free high school that he can play football at (if he so desires) less than five minutes away.

    Because sports are a part of the school experience. A kid should be happy in school, completely, and have the same opportunities regardless of which school he chooses. The circumstances of this situation require a certain consideration, and unfortunately, with the climate of the state's public schools right now, in reference to their witchhunt on the privates, mean this kid gets caught in the middle, at the time in his life when he least needs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    I have to say that I'm disappointed that this is the way people think. The boy was in Catholic school in Louisiana, and it's obvious that it's important to his family to continue a Catholic education despite the circumstances.

    It's heartbreaking enough for these families, without having to deal with the bias of the Kentucky school systems. There's obviously only compassion up to the point that a family chooses a public school for their child. There MUST be some ulterior motive involved if the family would choose a Catholic education for their football playing son. I could almost understand the uproar if the kid had been enrolled at Trinity or X, but Holy Cross?!

    Maybe it is time for a Public/Private split....It's obvious that the missions of the two educational choices are widely disparate.
    Amen, Rockmom! If you have to ask WHY choose a Catholic education over a public one, then you probably wouldn't understand the answer. Its a personal decision and the KHSAA should stay out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickymitts
    RM, he's not being denied a Catholic education, correct?

    No, he's being denied the right to be a part of his new school's football team. Being a part of the team is a part of the educational experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom
    No, he's being denied the right to be a part of his new school's football team. Being a part of the team is a part of the educational experience.
    You said that already. I still don't know.

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    I think something everyone may be missing in this:

    I am going to assume this family had already paid tuition for him and his sister at the private school in LA. Most private schools do not allow students to begin classes unless payment plans are in place. They may have paid upfront or quarterly, monthly whatever but lets assume they have paid. And lets assume there is not a great difference in price, which is likely a safe assumption seeing as Holy Cross is about $3000 cheaper than any Catholic school in Cincinnati, and about $2000 less than CovCath and ND.

    Now it would just be a matter of the diocese in LA releasing the funds to the diocese in Covington. That may not be all that easy since the school and diocese office etc may all be gone or no one may have access to the offices, records etc.

    So its not like they would be attending "free". It is simply a matter of moving funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickymitts
    Bottom line though, he's got a free high school that he can play football at (if he so desires) less than five minutes away.
    I strongly disagree! It's not about football, or any other sport, it's about the bias the KHSAA is now showing against private school STUDENTS!

    The KHSAA did the right thing in the beginning allowing Gulf Coast are kids to play immediately in KY, now they go against the SPIRIT of the offer, which is to help out, and to give these kids something they enjoy doing in their time of this disaster.

    If president Bush is willing to help pay back states and school, INCLUDING private schools I think the KHSAA should allow the ones who choose to attend private school the right to play there.

    As I said before, the kid went to a private school in N.O. he should be able to here as well.

    As RockMom stated, this shows that the KHSAA only will so compassion to those who want to attend public schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsGuy41017
    I strongly disagree! It's not about football, or any other sport, it's about the bias the KHSAA is now showing against private school STUDENTS!

    The KHSAA did the right thing in the beginning allowing Gulf Coast are kids to play immediately in KY, now they go against the SPIRIT of the offer, which is to help out, and to give these kids something they enjoy doing in their time of this disaster.

    If president Bush is willing to help pay back states and school, INCLUDING private schools I think the KHSAA should allow the ones who choose to attend private school the right to play there.

    As I said before, the kid went to a private school in N.O. he should be able to here as well.

    As RockMom stated, this shows that the KHSAA only will so compassion to those who want to attend public schools.
    Maybe that should be the KHSAA's only stipulation. If you were enrolled in a private school, you are immediately eligible to play at another private school. We all know that this could, not saying it will, get to be ridiculous. If they're going from private to private than maybe they should be eligible. One other question, is the KHSAA allowing student athletes to be added at any point in the season or are they putting a cutoff date in to effect?



    BTW, Sportsguy in no way shape or form can you take credit for possibly changing my mind.

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