Is Using the N-Word A Fireable Offense For Police Officers/Chiefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Yes. Yes I did. Otherwise I wouldn't have ran for union president. I've never hated anyone based on their skin color, religion, political beliefs, etc. I only hate stupid people and that's it. How can anyone say they trust a cop using language like Clizzy posted in posts 1,4 and 6? I sure wouldn't trust that cop. The cop singing Kanye or Jay-Z wouldn't bother me in the slightest though.
    I agree, but my point was that many people are put in a position to serve someone they may not like or even hate. But it doesn't keep them from doing their job. You think if some stupid guy knew you hated him he'd still want you to go to bat for him? You said you wouldn't have ran for President if you weren't willing to do so. Well no one becomes a police officer thinking they will only answer calls for people they like that like them back, either. They do to do a job they feel called to do, knowing that most that they come in contact with black or white aren't going to like them or even respect the job they are doing...but they do it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    I agree, but my point was that many people are put in a position to serve someone they may not like or even hate. But it doesn't keep them from doing their job. You think if some stupid guy knew you hated him he'd still want you to go to bat for him? You said you wouldn't have ran for President if you weren't willing to do so. Well no one becomes a police officer thinking they will only answer calls for people they like that like them back, either. They do to do a job they feel called to do, knowing that most that they come in contact with black or white aren't going to like them or even respect the job they are doing...but they do it anyway.
    It's one thing to hate someone because they beat you on a last second shot in high school and have to serve and protect them. It's a whole other ballgame to hate an entire race of people and have to serve and protect them. I couldn't imagine running for Union president and being racist towards white people. That doesn't make sense to me.

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    One thing that I think maybe get's overlooked is that the use of that word may be directed towards one person...NOT an entire race of people. I've heard black friends call other blacks that word and meaning it in a very derogatory way (not in a friendly way), they don't think all blacks are that but think this individual is. A white guy could say the word and mean it directed towards one person that does not make them a racist or mean they feel that way about every black...or does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    One thing that I think maybe get's overlooked is that the use of that word may be directed towards one person...NOT an entire race of people. I've heard black friends call other blacks that word and meaning it in a very derogatory way (not in a friendly way), they don't think all blacks are that but think this individual is. A white guy could say the word and mean it directed towards one person that does not make them a racist or mean they feel that way about every black...or does it.
    If the black guy says it towards one in a derogatory manner then he can say it towards all blacks and he likely has a negative perception of black people. Same for the white dude who uses it in a derogatory manner. You can't use hate speech in isolated incidents IMO. You either have respect for people of you don't. It's kind of like how blacks use Uncle Tom. I loathe that way more than the n-word. I'd rather a white or black person call me the n-word in a derogatory manner than for a black person to call me an Uncle Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Fire away...take away his pension too!
    Because we all know that police officers are the only public servants that ever say anything or tell jokes like that...Fire em all!!!

    Seriously that word shouldn't be used ever.
    As long as it is in common speech in movies and used by comedians we pay to see...white people are going to slip up and use it. I remember seeing Eddie Murphy and Richard Prior as a young man, you couldn't tell half of their jokes later without using the magic word. Does that make me a racist for repeating a funny Eddie Murphy or Richard Prior joke? Should have been fired if I was telling someone about just seeing Eddie Murphy/Chris Rock/David Chapelle in an email and repeated one of the jokes? I love the song Gold Digger, should a policeman be fired if he's videoed sitting in traffic singing along to that song on the radio and saying that word over and over?

    Kanye said the word over 30 times last night on TV but it was muted out each time, but if you knew the words and sang along should you be fired if your a cop?

    I'm not comparing that to what ever this guy did or didn't say, just where is the fire/not fire line.
    I get that this is a sensitive subject for some. With that your reaction doesn't make sense.

    Eddie Murphy? Kanye? Songs?

    Do any of those artists protect the public? Do they need the trust of the public like officers in a community do?

    So before we continue this let's get back to the topic at hand. Can a police officer keep his/her job if it becomes public that they made jokes about hanging blacks or saying "I hate n-----" and other things?

    If you say they can then tell me how the blacks in the community are to think the police will protect them like they do whites.

    If you agree that the blacks could NOT think that officer has their best interests at heart then why can he/she keep their job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I guess you have to ask yourself are there any words that some white people find offensive when used by people of other races to describe them?

    And my point is, if we are going to go through all the white officers texts, emails, MDT messages, etc. looking for trouble we need to do the same for all the black officers and the off limits menu is much bigger.

    Frankly, the way we in America are attacking the police these days I really fear for our safety 10 years and beyond.
    Do you think that whites in America feel that black officers are against them to the same degree that blacks think white officers are against them? Do you think it's a problem for white America?

    Can a force be effective if they do not have the trust of a group of the society?

    That's the issue at hand in this thread. It seems like a fair question to ask in today's times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    I get that this is a sensitive subject for some. With that your reaction doesn't make sense.

    Eddie Murphy? Kanye? Songs?

    Do any of those artists protect the public? Do they need the trust of the public like officers in a community do?

    So before we continue this let's get back to the topic at hand. Can a police officer keep his/her job if it becomes public that they made jokes about hanging blacks or saying "I hate n-----" and other things?

    If you say they can then tell me how the blacks in the community are to think the police will protect them like they do whites.

    If you agree that the blacks could NOT think that officer has their best interests at heart then why can he/she keep their job?
    You are missing my point on Eddie and Kanye. As long as that word is in common speech in movies, comedy and songs it will always be here and is going to come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    You are missing my point on Eddie and Kanye. As long as that word is in common speech in movies, comedy and songs it will always be here and is going to come out.
    I got the point. Does not matter that they say it.

    So....

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    While I loathe the word and the use of it, from anyone, regardless of race, I do not think it is an offense worthy of firing.

    I consider anyone using the word, white or black, stupid. The context doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    So before we continue this let's get back to the topic at hand. Can a police officer keep his/her job if it becomes public that they made jokes about hanging blacks or saying "I hate n-----" and other things?
    I'd say firing is the appropriate action unfortunately. Even if you suspend the officer and have him 'retrained' or whatever, he's not going to change how he really feels in his heart. And ultimately that will come through in how he enforces the law, maybe not every time, but even one time is too many.

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    Sorry have to get that post 666 off my total asap. Lol.

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    There is a book by an African-American professor from Harvard simply titled "Ni**er" (with "g"s where the *s are). I am white and I've read parts of it - actually went to hear him speak in Louisville about 14 years ago. In it he argues that as long as we continue to keep the stigma with the word society will never escape its grasp. He basically implies that we should let everyone use it, and that African-Americans need to show that they will not allow it to offend them, and then the word loses it's power.

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    tried to post the Amazon link, but the N-word is in the http address and BGP won't let it through.

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    delete. Duplicate post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Same guy texted "I hate n----s."

    Accountable for his words? Is it the same as a black guy calling one of his fellow black guys his "n----?"
    Those two aren't in the same area code. There is use of the word, then there is the motive behind the use. HOWEVER, any use of the word can't be tolerated due to the political climate. Any use should be punished the same. It would be nice if we could use common sense about the different uses, but common sense is going the way of the dinosaurs. Much easier to just go black and white on the rule.

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