Is The Number Of Players Active The Solution?

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    Is The Number Of Players Active The Solution?

    70 in 4A
    60 in 3A
    50 in 2A
    45 in 1A


    Does this solve the "problem"???
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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    70 in 4A
    60 in 3A
    50 in 2A
    45 in 1A


    Does this solve the "problem"???
    No I don't like the idea of limiting a team, maybe limit the number that can dress for a game would be ok, but not cutting kids. Sports are important to kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram95
    No I don't like the idea of limiting a team, maybe limit the number that can dress for a game would be ok, but not cutting kids. Sports are important to kids.
    It wuld be a dressed for game limitation...

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    Go for it

    Trinity regularly dresses only 75 during the regular season (other then X).

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    I don't see how that would make a difference. There is already a mechanism to limit the number of active players--it's called playing time. You can limit a huge school to 75 and guess what? The 25 that get cut never would have seen any playing time anyway except for maybe mopup duty in lopsided games. The root of the enrollment problem lies with the fact that larger schools can field a superior 75 because there is more raw material available to them.

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    I think this would improve that competitive balance for several reasons:

    1. The depth on teams like x and t is a huge advantage, because it motivates those players who do play because they know if they don't perform there are others waiting to take their spot.

    2. In some cases players that do not play as freshman and soph. develop with practice time and become solid contributors in later years. Those players may not be on the roster of that large team if this rule were in effect.

    3. Some players may elect to attend other schools so that they can play football. This will disperse the talent more evenly and allow for improved competition.

    I think limited the size of the coaching staff would improve the current situation as well.

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    I don't see how this would help. Limiting a LexCatholic to only 60 does nothing to balance them with the VAST MAJORITY of schools in 3A. It does nothing to limit them drawing from 10-13 counties and fielding what looks like an all-star team.


    At the same time, I don't think it is the bottom 20 or so players that is throwing off the competitive balance. And that would be limiting some players who are not going to be stars but NEED to be part of something in school so they don't fall through the cracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terp
    I think this would improve that competitive balance for several reasons:

    1. The depth on teams like x and t is a huge advantage, because it motivates those players who do play because they know if they don't perform there are others waiting to take their spot.

    2. In some cases players that do not play as freshman and soph. develop with practice time and become solid contributors in later years. Those players may not be on the roster of that large team if this rule were in effect.

    3. Some players may elect to attend other schools so that they can play football. This will disperse the talent more evenly and allow for improved competition.

    I think limited the size of the coaching staff would improve the current situation as well.
    What a bad idea. First, it does nothing to affect competition. At 75 players you are already three deep. Second, sports are good for kids, ALL kids. Why limit the number of kids that can participate. Third, the solution is not to bring down participation at the schools that have great turnout. Bring it up at the schools with low turnout. Fourth, limiting the number of coaches is a bad idea. Once again, why bring down the schools that are doing it right. Bring up the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terp
    I think this would improve that competitive balance for several reasons:

    1. The depth on teams like x and t is a huge advantage, because it motivates those players who do play because they know if they don't perform there are others waiting to take their spot.

    2. In some cases players that do not play as freshman and soph. develop with practice time and become solid contributors in later years. Those players may not be on the roster of that large team if this rule were in effect.

    3. Some players may elect to attend other schools so that they can play football. This will disperse the talent more evenly and allow for improved competition.

    I think limited the size of the coaching staff would improve the current situation as well.
    1. It could make X and T (and other privates with large rosters class-wise) even better. Right now players might worry about losing their starting or back-up spot but think how hard everyone would concentrate knowing that 20 guys aren't going to suit up on Friday night and no one wants to be them.

    2. Maybe or maybe they totally focus on that JR and SR season. Most of the large Ohio schools do not dress more than a couple Sophs and it does not hurt them.

    3. Maybe but if you aren't in or near the Top 70 at X or T, the Top 60 at LCath or the Top 40 at NCC or Lex Chrisitan then how much would you help at other schools.

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    I agree that limiting participation is not an answer (or a good one anyway). I know of several kids that participate just to be a part of the team. They get very little game time but want to be a part of the whole.

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    I know when Letcher County Central came on this year they had 99 kids on their team. A big number for football boys to come out. I don't like the idea, but JMO.

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    LexCath dresses everybody (freshmen, JV) for varsity games....the majority don't get on the field much...just ask their parents. Most years the varsity starters are seniors with a few juniors. The freshmen dress out and get to carry the equipment on/off the field. Sophomores are the scout team. This practice starts "team building" early..everybody has a role and you know what it will be. Kids work their way up to varsity. Some never get to play much in games but they're part of the team.

    LBBC, don't believe what you read about all these out of county athletes flocking to Lexcath to play football. It's not true now and never has been..very very few members of the football team come from outside Fayette county. With a few exceptions the vast majority of the football team has always come from one of the Catholic feeder schools or they are Catholic. People seem to always want to point out those few exceptions...forgetting that it takes more than one or two players to make a team. On the 2004 team all but one of the skilled offensive starting players were Catholic....and all but two were seniors.
    And, this year the celebrated and very deserving QB and the most valuable player of the championship game both came from Catholic grade schools in Lexington....as did most of the rest of the team.
    Football at Catholic is the only sport where kids don't get cut unless they misbehave. Limiting numbers just hurts kids and has no impact on the game other than eliminating another thing for some of the publics to whine about.

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    Limiting the number of players on the team in no way solves any problem. Many kids join teams just to be a part of something. They may not be superstars, but they are at practice day in and day out, and usually taking the beating by the first team. They deserve to be dressed and on the sideline with the team as much as the starters. Are you going to tell the kids that have gone thru Aug. practice an 2/days, "sorry its the play-offs, you can't dress with the team because someone is INTIMIDATED by the numbers of our team"

    High School sports is about participating and teaching something kids don't get in a class room. Who are we to decide if a child can stand on the sideline and be with THEIR team. I would not want to be the person that had to look that child in the eye and tell them they could not be with THEIR team on that particular night. Really stupid idea

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    It would not limit kids on the team, just those in full gear on Friday Night. They would still be on the sideline, and still be a part of the team. Just a limit on those that could play that night. Great Coaches would work out a rotation to fill those final spots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    It would not limit kids on the team, just those in full gear on Friday Night. They would still be on the sideline, and still be a part of the team. Just a limit on those that could play that night. Great Coaches would work out a rotation to fill those final spots...
    Would you stand on a sideline "not in full gear" after going thru what the rest of the team had gone thru that year? I'm sure that would give you a warm and fuzzy feeling after the coach had been telling you from June you were a part of a team and a team player

    What does it matter any ways if they are dressed or not?

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