Is the KHSAA ready to impose the "Death Penalty" on Covington Holy Cross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Maybe it wouldn't happen today, but I can name two players who went to Covington Latin that are among the greatest athletes in Northern Kentucky history. David Justice who played professional baseball and Brian O'Conner who played professional basketball in Europe and the CBA and is probably the best basketball player in Thomas More history both went to Latin School.

    I would argue that in my lifetime for top level athletes high school sports have never been less important. Between club sports, AAU, select teams, sports camps, etc. I am not even sure you need to play high school sports to get a scholarship if you are good enough.
    Did they go to Latin, or did they transfer there from another school? I have never heard of anyone who transferred from a surrounding school while in high school to Cov Latin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    #99 do you know if Fox news will be doing a story on this?
    Some reason I doubt this. But I couldn't tell you either way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    Newport Catholic is both Catholic and in Newport.
    You don't have to tell me . I paid them almost $50,000 dollars in tuition over 12 years .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Maybe it wouldn't happen today, but I can name two players who went to Covington Latin that are among the greatest athletes in Northern Kentucky history. David Justice who played professional baseball and Brian O'Conner who played professional basketball in Europe and the CBA and is probably the best basketball player in Thomas More history both went to Latin School.

    I would argue that in my lifetime for top level athletes high school sports have never been less important. Between club sports, AAU, select teams, sports camps, etc. I am not even sure you need to play high school sports to get a scholarship if you are good enough.
    For all the NKY folks, Justice is the first name that popped to mind when reading PurplePride92's post.

    While it may seem hard to believe, there are actually parents of really good athletes who don't shop their kids based upon sports. I am also less skeptical that it is ancient history like VOR.

    The Pelle kid from Silver Grove was another one that came to mind. He would have been a star at any school in the state and playing for Silver Grove he mostly flew under everyone's radar (including the college coach that was nearest to him).

    I would also throw Drew Barker in there. Although I know that Conner is not a terrible program, they haven't really been a power either. It would have made an awfully lot of sense for Drew Barker to have ended up at Cov. Cath or Beechwood, but for whatever reason his parents didn't shop him around.

    I know that these are the exceptions and not the rule, but I am sure there are other examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Maybe it wouldn't happen today, but I can name two players who went to Covington Latin that are among the greatest athletes in Northern Kentucky history. David Justice who played professional baseball and Brian O'Conner who played professional basketball in Europe and the CBA and is probably the best basketball player in Thomas More history both went to Latin School.

    I would argue that in my lifetime for top level athletes high school sports have never been less important. Between club sports, AAU, select teams, sports camps, etc. I am not even sure you need to play high school sports to get a scholarship if you are good enough.
    Agree 100%. I have actually seen college coaches watching select practices rather than going to a HS event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCC9 View Post
    Ices aid plenty of times in this conversation that sports can be a factor, but should not be "the" factor. And if we are relating this topic to what we are talking about, the place these kids have come from so far are just as good and just as well know for their girls Bball programs. In a couple cases, much more history than the school they are going to!

    Again, I'm not saying it can't be a factor. I'm saying any parent that moves kids from one school to another based solely on sports has their priorities out of order. It's that simple and that's my opinion.

    And yes, I had a very good player that played aau for me for a long time and decided to go to Cov Latin for acedemics. So yes it happened. She would have been a senior this year, but skipped two grades and graduated two years ago. She didn't didn't care how good they were in Bball. Now she's a Jr in college.

    Again, you know me and you know my kids play sports. I would have them at a good acedemic school with a good sports program. But I can tell you that acedemics absolutely weighed a lot higher than the sports. 99% of all the kids will be done with sports after college, if those fortunate few even get to play in college. So anyone that chooses a high school soley in sports isn't thinking it all the way through. And again, in these situations so far, they are not coming from school with a lesser program. One could argue that historically, the programs are better than where they are coming from!
    So your kids go to the school in your area that is the best academic school in your area? The school they attend, are their programs any good or do they lose a majority of the games they play?

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    So we have 5-6 kids whose parents chose strong academic schools over strong sports programs? That's it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    So your kids go to the school in your area that is the best academic school in your area? The school they attend, are their programs any good or do they lose a majority of the games they play?
    They go to Highlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    So we have 5-6 kids whose parents chose strong academic schools over strong sports programs? That's it?
    No, it's a combo. I don't think anyone is saying it's academics alone. I think we are saying if you choose a school based on sports alone, that's where the issue lies.

    Let me ask you this. If I had a girl that went to HHS and played bball and I told you I was moving her for academic reasons, would you buy that? Heck, even if it was solely for girls basketball reasons, would you even buy that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCC9 View Post
    No, it's a combo. I don't think anyone is saying it's academics alone. I think we are saying if you choose a school based on sports alone, that's where the issue lies.

    Let me ask you this. If I had a girl that went to HHS and played bball and I told you I was moving her for academic reasons, would you buy that? Heck, even if it was solely for girls basketball reasons, would you even buy that?
    If you moved your girl from Highlands to a school with better academics and a bad sports program I would buy you saying academics is the priority. If you moved your girl from a better academic school with a poor sports program to go to school at Highlands I would say that I don't blame you one bit.

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again, academics is important but sports plays a large part in to where a lot of kids end up at school. If I lived in NKY and my boy played basketball he'd go to CovCath. If he played baseball or football then he'd go to Highlands. If we lived in Louisville and he played basketball he'd be at Ballard or Trinity. If he played football then he'd go to Trinity. If we lived in BG he'd go to BG regardless of the sport he played. We live in Danville so he goes to Boyle County but I switched him from Burgin when he was in the 7th grade. If we lived in Lexington he'd go to Dunbar or LexCath to play basketball. Out west, Hoptown, Owensboro, Paducah Tilghman or Christian County for basketball.

    If academics was truly the priority and he lived in NKY he'd be at Cov. Latin or Villa Madonna or one of those schools no one talks about. In Louisville, probably still Trinity but I'd have to research it. In Danville, Boyle County. In Lexington maybe Sayre or LCA, most likely LexCath but I'd need to research that also. In BG, he'd still be at BG.

    It's easy to say academics is the priority when kids are at a school with strong academics and a strong sports program. The ones at schools truly for academics play for less than average sports programs and get beat more than they win.

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    I understand that Highlands is a great school. Are we implying HC isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSC View Post
    I understand that Highlands is a great school. Are we implying HC isn't?
    I'm not. I simply don't like when people say that folks who place their kid in ____________ school solely for sports has their priorities out of wack. Most school's academic curriculum is the same as 98% of the schools in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    If you moved your girl from Highlands to a school with better academics and a bad sports program I would buy you saying academics is the priority. If you moved your girl from a better academic school with a poor sports program to go to school at Highlands I would say that I don't blame you one bit.
    But I'm with you, for my girls, I personally wouldn't move them to a school that had bad sports. And I have no issue with that. I made that decision based on sports and academics. But I also have a son that is most likely not going to make any sports programs at HHS and I pay tuition for him to go to Highlands for their academics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSC View Post
    I understand that Highlands is a great school. Are we implying HC isn't?
    I'm not. I think they are a very good academic school. But if you tell me you are moving your kid from HHS (where they go for free) to pay for HC because of academic reasons, I'm not buying it. Just my opinion.

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