DNA Test Results - The Federal Database is growing

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    DNA Test Results - The Federal Database is growing

    I am sure many of us have sent in our spit to learn about our DNA, ancestry, and a whole host of other interesting information. I have always thought about doing it, and still may, but I also have always told everyone you know that stuff is going to end up in a Federal Database. Of course most people blew me (and many others saying the same thing) off but it is true, at least with the results one company has been collecting.

    As it turns out, Houston, Texas-based FamilyTreeDNA – one of the most prominent private DNA testing companies – has given the FBI free license to search its genealogy database, granting feds virtually unlimited access to a treasure trove of genetic data for the purpose of solving violent crimes.

    FamilyTreeDNA Admits to Sharing Genetic Data With the FBI

    I thought this highlighted comment from the article was especially interesting:

    “A study last year estimated that only 2 percent of the population needs to have done a DNA test for virtually everyone’s genetic information to be represented in that data.”

    In other words, once the Government has 2% of the available DNA, they may not know who the "bad girl/guy" is but they know some of your relatives.

    Also from the article University of Baltimore assistant law professor Natalie Ram who specializes in bioethics and criminal justice gave her opinion on some of the implications:

    “We are nearing a de-facto national DNA database … We don’t choose our genetic relatives, and I cannot sever my genetic relation to them. There’s nothing voluntary about that.”

    I feel like we are quickly moving to a day and age where crime is going to be nearly impossible to get away with and we are going to have a real form of Minority Report meets Artificial Intelligence meets Human Agendas. It scares me. Not for me, but for our children, grandchildren, and so on.

    What do you think? Good? Bad? Indifferent?
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    My first thought is if you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about when it comes to crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet16 View Post
    My first thought is if you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about when it comes to crimes.
    My first thought is in a couple of keystrokes anyone can be framed for anything.

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    I couldn't care less if the FBI has my DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    My first thought is in a couple of keystrokes anyone can be framed for anything.
    Not based on DNA alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Not based on DNA alone.
    I don't know.

    Imagine if there was an unsolved crime with no evidence whatsoever and then all of a sudden your DNA was "found" at the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I don't know.

    Imagine if there was an unsolved crime with no evidence whatsoever and then all of a sudden your DNA was "found" at the scene.
    You'd have to prove I was at the scene at the time of the crime. Just because my DNA was there doesn't mean I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    You'd have to prove I was at the scene at the time of the crime. Just because my DNA was there doesn't mean I was.
    In today's dollars it would probably cost $20 million to defend that kind of case considering what you would be up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    In today's dollars it would probably cost $20 million to defend that kind of case considering what you would be up against.
    With as much surveillance and technology as there is in today's world, it would be pretty easy to prove you weren't in a particular place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    With as much surveillance and technology as there is in today's world, it would be pretty easy to prove you weren't in a particular place.
    Or, if you were being framed, would all that information be manipulated too?

    All I am saying is such powerful databases are ripe for abuse.

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    I'm worried also. But I'm more worried about the health care \ insurance issues with DNA test results. What's going to happen when they think they can predict who will get cancer and who will not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    I'm worried also. But I'm more worried about the health care \ insurance issues with DNA test results. What's going to happen when they think they can predict who will get cancer and who will not?
    Keep your glass help full and hope that it means better preventative health care for those of us more likely to get cancer.

    As for the data base, does not bother me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Or, if you were being framed, would all that information be manipulated too?

    All I am saying is such powerful databases are ripe for abuse.
    If someone is going to manipulate the evidence, I feel that they easily could manipulate the evidence to include your DNA as well.

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    My initial thought is that I don't care if the government has my DNA as I don't plan to commit a violent crime in the future. Perhaps there might be some other reason why I would'nt want them to have it, but I can't think of anything right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I don't know.

    Imagine if there was an unsolved crime with no evidence whatsoever and then all of a sudden your DNA was "found" at the scene.
    Sounds like Making a Murderer.

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