Cop dies after being shot by black crimimal

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    Where is the outrage and threads on this subject? Hardly anything on the news, guess it doesn't matter 25 year old loses his life by not shooting first and asking questions later. Just goes to show the police have to make split second decisions and if they guess wrong well they are dead or being ridiculed and charged with something.
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    I was pretty vocal on my personal pages about this. We only scream, cry, protest etc. when it fits our own agenda. We also ignore the base rate. Corrupt police officers killing innocent black men is FAR less pervasive than black on black crime, white on black crime, black on white crime, etc. In fact, I don't know for certain, but I'd guess more police officers are injured on duty than innocent people injured by police officers. But media and people only want to see what fits their agenda.

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    Do cops lives matter?

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    Why is there not as much outrage? Because police officers take an oath to PROTECT and Serve. There's nothing protective about killing unarmed citizens...

    This is a tragedy, as is EVERY instance when an officer loses his or her life. Every time an officer loses his or her life, it SHOULD be a big deal. Heck, it doesn't even have to be a loss of life to be a tragedy that an officer is injured. They are laying their life on the line to keep the peace for us, and them having to fear for their lives is a shame.

    The difference between the two is we are supposed to look at police as a service to protect us from all the bad in the world. They are NOT supposed to BE the bad in the world, and in the instances we've discussed here over the past few months that's exactly what's happened.

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    This is infuriating me on a deep level. Where is POTUS making a statement about this issue and putting the blame where it should be? This is what happens when Police Officers are in fear of being sued and charged with murder they end up dead.

    I will say this, the cop that shot the man in the back in South Carolina deserved what he got. The problem is, he is in the minority. There was an outrage about that, but when this happens it turns into "The cop knew the risk when he accepted the job." It is almost like people excuse the actions this way because the suspect is a criminal and that is how they act.

    I can't take the idea of people being racist when a lot of the times the people placing blame are the ones who are just as much, or more to blame than the people they are excusing. End of rant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milfordflash View Post
    Where is the outrage and threads on this subject? Hardly anything on the news, guess it doesn't matter 25 year old loses his life by not shooting first and asking questions later. Just goes to show the police have to make split second decisions and if they guess wrong well they are dead or being ridiculed and charged with something.
    Not much gets by you, eh @Milfordflash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    Do cops lives matter?
    Yes. All lives matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JokersWild24 View Post
    Not much gets by you, eh @Milfordflash?
    This is the shortest post I think you have ever written. lol

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    There's a thread on it on here. Not sure what more you want people to do?

    It's a terrible tragedy, that should never occur. I think one of the differences as to why these threads don't generate the discussion that those that involve cops killing someone is that these situations are black and white. There's nothing to say or discuss other than to express condolences for the officer that lost his life.

    In many instances in the other threads, there is a discussion of whether the death was justified, which is going to generate a debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JokersWild24 View Post
    Yes. All lives matter.
    Some don't think so.
    A College President Had to Apologize for Saying 'All Lives Matter' - Hit & Run : Reason.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeelsOnField View Post
    I was pretty vocal on my personal pages about this. We only scream, cry, protest etc. when it fits our own agenda. We also ignore the base rate. Corrupt police officers killing innocent black men is FAR less pervasive than black on black crime, white on black crime, black on white crime, etc. In fact, I don't know for certain, but I'd guess more police officers are injured on duty than innocent people injured by police officers. But media and people only want to see what fits their agenda.


    I'm not really sure what either the bolded or underlined proves, or that anyone is saying otherwise.

    You could replace 'police officers' with doctors, school teachers, basically any profession and the same is still true. More bus drivers are probably injured on duty than innocent people are injured by bus drivers. It's a red herring to put any small subset of the population up against the rest of the population and make a statement like that just based on sheer volume. Your "base rate" is going to be pretty heavily skewed one way when the population sample on one side outnumbers the other at around 100:1 or so.

    I'm not in any way excusing what happened if in fact an officer was shot and killed. That is nothing but tragic, line of duty or not. Someone loses their life, it's tragic. Period. I don't think you'll find people arguing otherwise, so I'm not really sure what there is to argue about.

    I would fathom a guess that most people here have an "agenda" that innocent people dying is not a good thing.

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    You can find people who think a lot of things, that doesn't mean I agree with them, and I'm always right. Just ask me. I've never been wrong. Well, once I was, but I was just wrong then to see what it felt like. Other than that though...

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    2 professions where the public expect perfection 100% of the time...Police Officers and Surgeons.

    Not talking about intentional harmful acts but mistakes made with split second decisions...

    Police Officer makes a mistake he can be on the national news for weeks and months, judged by the public and prosecutors, lose his privacy, lose his job, career and freedom as Prison Time is a possibility.

    Surgeon makes a mistake he is reviewed by his peers, his insurance carrier could be forced to pay out a settlement and he could miss a tee-time.

    again just talking about mistakes not intentional harmful acts.

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    I'm surprised cities can get police officers the way things are going for them. I know there are bad officers just like their are bad individuals in every phase of work. Just seems like they are damned if they shoot first and dead if they don't. Maybe they will all just quit and let the criminals do what they want when they want. Wonder how that would go over with people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JokersWild24 View Post
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    I'm not really sure what either the bolded or underlined proves, or that anyone is saying otherwise.

    You could replace 'police officers' with doctors, school teachers, basically any profession and the same is still true. More bus drivers are probably injured on duty than innocent people are injured by bus drivers. It's a red herring to put any small subset of the population up against the rest of the population and make a statement like that just based on sheer volume. Your "base rate" is going to be pretty heavily skewed one way when the population sample on one side outnumbers the other at around 100:1 or so.

    I'm not in any way excusing what happened if in fact an officer was shot and killed. That is nothing but tragic, line of duty or not. Someone loses their life, it's tragic. Period. I don't think you'll find people arguing otherwise, so I'm not really sure what there is to argue about.

    I would fathom a guess that most people here have an "agenda" that innocent people dying is not a good thing.
    That is my ENTIRE point. The agenda should be innocent people dying is not a good thing no matter circumstance, skin color, occupation. In no way is my point to say that the police officer being murdered is more important or worthy of outrage than Freddie Gray or Walter Scott being murdered.

    And the underlined isn't to "prove" anything. The underlined is to say that the media and people with an agenda would have you think that cops injuring or killing innocent people is a daily occurrence when it's not. Far more cops are injured on the job than innocent people injured or killed. Even one occurrence of EITHER situation is one too many. But if we are so concerned with innocent lives, I'd expect as much attention give to those situations as what is given to the Baltimore, SC, Ferguson situations.

    I also don't think anyone is arguing here. And, in fact, an officer was killed, yes. That is not a hypothetical. There is no point to be made or argument to be had here.

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