Asst. Principal of Pendelton Co. predicts death as KHSAA if Prop 20 passes

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    Asst. Principal of Pendelton Co. predicts death as KHSAA if Prop 20 passes

    He said passage of Proposal 20 would ruin the state's Sweet 16 basketball tournament and, ultimately, the KHSAA.

    "Sixty-two percent of KHSAA revenue comes from that tournament," Dearborn said. "If Proposal 20 goes through, the KHSAA is dead."


    Also Erlanger-Elsmere Superintendent Mike Sander started the discussion by reiterating his support to separate the schools.

    "It would allow us to offer more state championships," Sander told the group. "I think now it's an uneven playing field because of the nature of what private schools have to do, which is recruit to survive."

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    "If it passes, it would have to be approved by a majority of the 18 members on the KHSAA board of control."

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Play No Work
    He said passage of Proposal 20 would ruin the state's Sweet 16 basketball tournament and, ultimately, the KHSAA.

    "Sixty-two percent of KHSAA revenue comes from that tournament," Dearborn said. "If Proposal 20 goes through, the KHSAA is dead."


    Also Erlanger-Elsmere Superintendent Mike Sander started the discussion by reiterating his support to separate the schools.

    "It would allow us to offer more state championships," Sander told the group. "I think now it's an uneven playing field because of the nature of what private schools have to do, which is recruit to survive."

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    Well that is just shocking since if you listen to the experts on here, the KHSAA cash cow is the state football championship game with either St. X or Trinity. I guess neither is as vital to the success of the KHSAA as some fans think they are.

    Also for those that say football is driving the issue, it puts some doubt on that argument.

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    I am continually amazed at how often the public school people use the phrase "level playing field". Has anyone ever actually defined what is meant by this less than forthcoming concept? From the position of the publics, I assume it must mean that we must make privates operate like many think publics operate. First of all, that is not possible or reasonable. Second, the publics are not as "lily white" in their adherence to the rules as many would like us to believe.
    The Erlanger-Elsmere Superintendent wants to separate so we can, so he says, have more champions. His reasoning, whether he is sincere or not, is ridiculous. It sounds like he wants to improve the chances of his constituency by getting rid of the often good northern area privates. As for more champions, what good is gained by having a bunch of watered down champions. Somehow, being champion of the Erlanger-Elsmere district is not really impressive. Nonetheless, according to the superintendent, it would make for more champions.
    On the other hand, the assistant principal at Pendleton County makes a lot of sense. He apparently operates in a world of reality. Maybe that is because he is an assistant principal and not a superintendent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98NCCalum
    "If it passes, it would have to be approved by a majority of the 18 members on the KHSAA board of control."
    The reporter wrote that. It is not in quotes and I doubt Dearborn stated it. It is not correct. All the BOC can do is either state that they support it or oppose it, but the BOC cannot kill it. If the delegates pass it, it must go to the State Board regardless of what the BOC thinks about it. If Bob told you to the contrary, he was mistaken.

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    Not sure if I follow his reasoning. I have to assume the revenue he speaks of is mostly from the boys Sweet 16. How many private schools were in the Sweet 16 last year? It seems that the largest crowds for the Sweet 16 are usually the rural public schools and not the private schools nor Lex/Louis schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    Not sure if I follow his reasoning. I have to assume the revenue he speaks of is mostly from the boys Sweet 16. How many private schools were in the Sweet 16 last year? It seems that the largest crowds for the Sweet 16 are usually the rural public schools and not the private schools nor Lex/Louis schools.
    If you believe that then you didn't see the crowd Trinity brought in their first and only sweet 16 trip. By the way, if a disproportionate number of titles for private schools is accepted as evidence of some unfair advantage for the private schools, why isn't the lack of success for Trinity accepted as proof of an unfair advantage for the public schools in the seventh region in basketball? One makes as much sense as the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity alum
    If you believe that then you didn't see the crowd Trinity brought in their first and only sweet 16 trip. By the way, if a disproportionate number of titles for private schools is accepted as evidence of some unfair advantage for the private schools, why isn't the lack of success for Trinity accepted as proof of an unfair advantage for the public schools in the seventh region in basketball? One makes as much sense as the other.
    By BGP standards back in March, I believe the posters on here felt Pendleton County brought the largest crowd this past season. I remember one poster making the comment that they know the Pendleton roster from reading the back of so many Pendleton shirts. Mason brings huge crowds. I am NOT discounting Trinity's appearance but in general it seems the biggest crowds year in and year out are from rural county schools.

    I think your second point has been addressed in another forum because I asked that question of St. X supporters. If they have 1500 boys, why are they not more successful in basketball?

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    You see '92 final crowd of Lex Cath and University Heights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    By BGP standards back in March, I believe the posters on here felt Pendleton County brought the largest crowd this past season. I remember one poster making the comment that they know the Pendleton roster from reading the back of so many Pendleton shirts. Mason brings huge crowds. I am NOT discounting Trinity's appearance but in general it seems the biggest crowds year in and year out are from rural county schools.

    I think your second point has been addressed in another forum because I asked that question of St. X supporters. If they have 1500 boys, why are they not more successful in basketball?
    You seem reluctant to spell out exactly what the unfair advantages are and just rely on differences in performance. I just pointed out that differences in performance cut both ways. I started a thread asking people to post their ideas for rule changes. Both you and the Rams have avoided offering any suggestions. Does that mean that you like the rules the way they are? Or could it be that by posting a rule change suggestion you might be asked to justify it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubster
    You see '92 final crowd of Lex Cath and University Heights?
    I was at that game and part of the reason for that crowd was a certain Duke/UK game. Although the crowd would have been smaller than normal anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    By BGP standards back in March, I believe the posters on here felt Pendleton County brought the largest crowd this past season. I remember one poster making the comment that they know the Pendleton roster from reading the back of so many Pendleton shirts. Mason brings huge crowds. I am NOT discounting Trinity's appearance but in general it seems the biggest crowds year in and year out are from rural county schools.

    I think your second point has been addressed in another forum because I asked that question of St. X supporters. If they have 1500 boys, why are they not more successful in basketball?



    It just goes to show you that numbers are not the entire end all when it comes to winning in athletics or academics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity alum
    You seem reluctant to spell out exactly what the unfair advantages are and just rely on differences in performance. I just pointed out that differences in performance cut both ways. I started a thread asking people to post their ideas for rule changes. Both you and the Rams have avoided offering any suggestions. Does that mean that you like the rules the way they are? Or could it be that by posting a rule change suggestion you might be asked to justify it?
    Not reluctant just tired of repeating myself. That horse has been beat to death, buried, dug up, beat some more and buried again.

    As far as the thread you mention, I have not been into it and am really tired of repeating the same arguments to so many different posters that are not willing to accept reality that the advantages are there.

    I have a friend who coaches and was at a private school for awhile and moved over to a public school. He indicated that he had no clue till he got to the public school how different the jobs were and it was made so much easier for him at the private school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    I was at that game and part of the reason for that crowd was a certain Duke/UK game. Although the crowd would have been smaller than normal anyhow.
    I believe, it was also in Louisville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird
    I believe, it was also in Louisville.
    Yes it was. You would see pockets of people watching small screen televisions throughout the arena and cheers going up with no action occurring on the floor. It was an interesting night at a state championship game.

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