5 of the 8 State Finalist are Private. Does Propostion 20 hold water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    How did it look last year? How about the year before that? Care to share???
    Remember there are approximate 200 public schools and 12 private schools. So both sides of the argument can use these stats to bolster their claim. For example, you can say in 2004, publics had 75% of the championship game spots but only 3% of the public schools were represented in the championship game while 17% of the private schools were representing even though the private schools only comprise 5.7% of the football playing schools.

    Before this year.
    2004
    publics took 6 of 8 spots
    A both are publics.
    AA 1 public, 1 private
    AAA 2 publics
    AAAA 1 public/1 private.

    2003
    Public took 6 of 8 spots
    A both teams public
    AA both teams public
    AAA both teams public
    AAAA 2 privates

    2002
    publics took 7 of 8 spots
    A 2 publics
    AA 2 publics
    AAA 2 publics
    AAAA 1 of each

    2001
    publics took 6 of 8 spots
    A 1 of each
    AA 2 publics
    AAA 2 publics
    AAAA 1 of each

    2000
    publics 6 of 8 spots.
    A 1 of each
    AA 2 publics
    AAA 2 publics
    AAAA 1 of each
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    2004
    A both are publics.
    AA 1 public, 1 private
    AAA 2 publics
    AAAA 1 public/1 private.
    2003 was only T and X. Not looking as powerful is it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    2003 was only T and X. Not looking as powerful is it???
    Since T and X are the ONLY 2 private schools in AAAA and they have combined to claim 6 of the 10 spots in the AAAA championship game, I would say yes as far as AAAA is concerned.

    Give the championship game spots another view and look at rural counties. Out of the 50 championship game spots from 2000 to present, 9 have been from a county school with Boyle County accounting for 5 spots, Rockcastle County 2, Breathitt and Scott each with 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    Since T and X are the ONLY 2 private schools in AAAA and they have combined to claim 6 of the 10 spots in the AAAA championship game, I would say yes as far as AAAA is concerned.
    And that's where the concern ends. Why would Publics outside of the 52 or so in 4A care about kicking them out???

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    And that's where the concern ends. Why would Publics outside of the 52 or so in 4A care about kicking them out???
    I have maintained from the beginning that while football may have been the last straw it is not the only straw that is on this camel's back. When you begin to look at some of the other sports especially on the girls' side, there is more domination. Hopefully, the AD's/Principals are equally concerned with the young ladies who participate in sports as the young men.

    Also, I have maintained that for a lot of schools it is not just about state championships but also about regional/district championships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    Since T and X are the ONLY 2 private schools in AAAA and they have combined to claim 6 of the 10 spots in the AAAA championship game, I would say yes as far as AAAA is concerned.
    Since 1998
    How many private schools have won the 1A (where the majority of private schools reside) title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 2A title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 3A title. 0 How many have made the finals? 1 (this year)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    Give the championship game spots another view and look at rural counties. Out of the 50 championship game spots from 2000 to present, 9 have been from a county school with Boyle County accounting for 5 spots, Rockcastle County 2, Breathitt and Scott each with 1.
    I would guess that's the case for just about every state in America...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime
    I would guess that's the case for just about every state in America...
    Probably so. Not sure what to make of it. I do not buy into the thought that those coaches and players of rural schools just need to work harder.

    Is it a situation that needs to be fixed. Not even sure on that. Just an interesting observation to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    I have maintained from the beginning that while football may have been the last straw it is not the only straw that is on this camel's back. When you begin to look at some of the other sports especially on the girls' side, there is more domination. Hopefully, the AD's/Principals are equally concerned with the young ladies who participate in sports as the young men.
    They (AD's/Principal) should be concerning themselves with getting classification in sports such as soccer, volleyball, basketball, softball.

    News flash: If football wasn't classified Trinity, St. X, Male would still be playing for the championship every year with maybe Highlands being the only smaller school with a chance most years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Play No Work
    Since 1998
    How many private schools have won the 1A (where the majority of private schools reside) title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 2A title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 3A title. 0 How many have made the finals? 1 (this year)
    According to the tone some have had on here and not necessarily you, APNW, but I guess they just need to work harder than.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    According to the tone some have had on here and not necessarily you, APNW, but I guess they just need to work harder than.
    I think it's more the numbers game. But isn't that the argument being used by over 90%???


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    Quote Originally Posted by All Play No Work
    They (AD's/Principal) should be concerning themselves with getting classification in sports such as soccer, volleyball, basketball, softball.

    News flash: If football wasn't classified Trinity, St. X, Male would still be playing for the championship every year with maybe Highlands being the only smaller school with a chance most years.
    I would agree with this except the money that runs the Sweet 16 won't let basketball become classified. Politicians would be losing their minds. Sweet 16 heroes from the past would be losing their minds. It would be pandemonium. Bring on Chicken Little if KHSAA proposed to classify basketball.

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    Question....

    WHAT IF:


    Counties who had small football participation/only one school/only one school with barely enough interest to field a team/ were allowed to combine and field a team of interested students together and compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Play No Work
    Since 1998
    How many private schools have won the 1A (where the majority of private schools reside) title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 2A title? 0 How many have made the finals? 1

    How many private schools have won the 3A title. 0 How many have made the finals? 1 (this year)
    You do raise an interesting point. An argument has been on here that St. X and Trinity hold an advantage because they can have so many kids on the team.

    At the A and AA levels where you are not going to have those numbers because of the size of your school, that advantage is negated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladiesbballcoach
    According to the tone some have had on here and not necessarily you, APNW, but I guess they just need to work harder than.
    You are actually correct.

    Not too up on 2A in the western part of the state and O'Cath, but LexCath/CovCath do need to work harder to beat Highlands on a consistant basis. And NewCath which has to have the worst facilities in 1A, has had their coach say that Beechwood has raised the bar and made everyone work harder in 1A.

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