Lamar Jackson Declares For NFL Draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Based on what exactly?
    For me it's based on the fact that what makes him so special is his ability to get outside the pocket and hurt teams with his legs. I don't see him being able to do that in the NFL, nor do I think he'll survive at the QB position if he tries to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    For me it's based on the fact that what makes him so special is his ability to get outside the pocket and hurt teams with his legs. I don't see him being able to do that in the NFL, nor do I think he'll survive at the QB position if he tries to.
    He ran as much as he did, especially in 2016, because his offensive line was hot garbage water. It was out of necessity. Fortunately his athletic ability allowed him to flourish in those situations. Get him behind an o-line that can actually protect him, I think he'll be fine.

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    Will Juwon Pass be the next good UL QB? I thought he looked good in the limited action he saw this year.
    Best of luck to LJ. He was really something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    Will Juwon Pass be the next good UL QB? I thought he looked good in the limited action he saw this year.
    Best of luck to LJ. He was really something.
    Could be. He's actually a bit bigger than Lamar. Still agile but not nearly as fast. Throws a nice ball.

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    LJ was the heisman trophy winner for a reason. He is leaving huge shoes to fill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    He ran as much as he did, especially in 2016, because his offensive line was hot garbage water. It was out of necessity. Fortunately his athletic ability allowed him to flourish in those situations. Get him behind an o-line that can actually protect him, I think he'll be fine.
    Tom Brady's Oline is horrendous this year. Many lines can't protect QBs at the next level. The ones that survive in that role are able to make the most of the situation... from the pocket in half the time of a college QB. The reality is we have no clue how he is able to operate and process the warp speed of NFL defenses until he is in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    The "he can't play QB in the NFL" narrative is lazy, at best. He obviously will need to improve on parts of his game (what player doesn't when moving to the NFL?), but saying he can't play the position is foolish.
    So who in the NFL do you compare his game too? Might help me better understand where you are coming from. The jump to the NFL is a big one and I for one just do not think that he can make some of the throws necessary to have measurable success in the NFL. I could be wrong, but only time will tell.

    There have been many QB's that have had stellar college careers and look like can't miss NFL prospects that simply do not have all of the tools necessary to have a long NFL career.

    With that said, I think someone will take a chance on him that does not need him to play right away and hope that he becomes a better pocket passer with some coaching and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of all Trades View Post
    So who in the NFL do you compare his game too? Might help me better understand where you are coming from. The jump to the NFL is a big one and I for one just do not think that he can make some of the throws necessary to have measurable success in the NFL. I could be wrong, but only time will tell.

    There have been many QB's that have had stellar college careers and look like can't miss NFL prospects that simply do not have all of the tools necessary to have a long NFL career.

    With that said, I think someone will take a chance on him that does not need him to play right away and hope that he becomes a better pocket passer with some coaching and experience.
    I don't compare his game to anybody, but simply saying "he can't play the position" or "he can't make some of the necessary throws" with absolutely no substance behind it is lazy. Does he need to improve his game? Without question. Needs to improve his accuracy (having NFL receivers who don't drop the ball will help) and he'll have to adjust to reading NFL defenses, like anybody else.

    I'm still waiting for anybody to SHOW me why he can't play the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Could be. He's actually a bit bigger than Lamar. Still agile but not nearly as fast. Throws a nice ball.
    That TD pass to the corner late-on against Syracuse was a thing of beauty. Hope that’s a preview of things to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    The reality is we have no clue how he is able to operate and process the warp speed of NFL defenses until he is in it.
    Agreed. Now tell me how that is any different from any other player.

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    I hope he is successful, but he reminds me so much of Vince Young...I think his intellect is better than Vince, so maybe he will be able to make the jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 74devil View Post
    Avoid Cleveland like the plague.
    I agree. They’ve changed very little since they started new.
    When that franchise was new they drafted Tim Couch and destroyed him. No line to protect him and he stayed injured. Shortened his career.
    He gets a bad rap from the national media as a player. They usually list him in the top 10 of most overrated number 1 picks. That’s untrue and not fair to a fantastic quarterback.

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    I hope he gets picked up by a good team that has a good starter now and doesn't need him to start in the next year or two. He can learn the NFL game before being thrown in the fire. If he can improve his accuracy there is no reason to think he can't be really good at the next level. That would be the one concern I would have with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Professor View Post
    I agree. They’ve changed very little since they started new.
    When that franchise was new they drafted Tim Couch and destroyed him. No line to protect him and he stayed injured. Shortened his career.
    He gets a bad rap from the national media as a player. They usually list him in the top 10 of most overrated number 1 picks. That’s untrue and not fair to a fantastic quarterback.
    Couch could very easily have gone down in NFL history as one of the Very Good if not Great QB's if he HAD NOT gone to Cleveland, the place where qb's careers go to die. I agree with your assessment of no protection; do they even HAVE an offensive philosophy? Jackson does have some work to do but he is by no means as bad as some of the media have said. The kid has a tremendous up side IF he gets in the right situation. Which (I say again), is NOT Cleveland.

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    I think he will be a Steeler or a Patriot. They both need backups and can afford the luxury to take him. He has so much upside that these two teams will do it. I can see the Saints, Giants and Chrgers, also.

    He is the best of the QB's coming out IMO. LJ can be special, special, special. he needs to be one f those guys that needs to sit and learn some things. Getting thrown to teh fire on a weak team will be a problem for he or any of teh guys coming in.

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