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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    Best believe I’m rooting for an end to the NCAA.
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    ...and what do you believe will sprout from its demise?
    Same here. What do people want in its place? Do people want only the power 5 conferences to be together? If that happens I think we see the demise of the popularity of college bball. One of the biggest draws is the big dance.

    Plus the demise of the ncaa is problems for small schools too. I don't want it to go away but I do think the ncaa can update to the times of today and make rules that fits today and not have Same rules in place from 50 years ago.
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    So, my question is, with all this info, what now happens to UL with what they’re already being investigated for? Does this mitigate any further major smack downs from the NCAA? Perhaps they went so hard on stripper gate because they knew that UL wouldn’t be able to be crushed much further (except for death penalty)? So, they handed down the harshest possible in advance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    So, my question is, with all this info, what now happens to UL with what they’re already being investigated for? Does this mitigate any further major smack downs from the NCAA? Perhaps they went so hard on stripper gate because they knew that UL wouldn’t be able to be crushed much further (except for death penalty)? So, they handed down the harshest possible in advance?
    Completely different cases IMO. One has nothing to the with the other.

    However, this is going to be so large that it's not going to matter. If I'm a UL fan, I'm not worried. Everyone is going to get theirs with this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBWC41 View Post
    Completely different cases IMO. One has nothing to the with the other.

    However, this is going to be so large that it's not going to matter. If I'm a UL fan, I'm not worried. Everyone is going to get theirs with this mess.
    Steipper gate and this is two different things. But we still have the Bowen thing going on. Which is a part of this thing.


    On the last point, I’d be happy if they just did away with the 2013 season for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurecoach View Post
    Same here. What do people want in its place? Do people want only the power 5 conferences to be together? If that happens I think we see the demise of the popularity of college bball. One of the biggest draws is the big dance.

    Plus the demise of the ncaa is problems for small schools too. I don't want it to go away but I do think the ncaa can update to the times of today and make rules that fits today and not have Same rules in place from 50 years ago.
    Whatever organization takes over for the NCAA will be good for a while then criticized. Unless it pays players but that in of itself, could spiral out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    Whatever organization takes over for the NCAA will be good for a while then criticized. Unless it pays players but that in of itself, could spiral out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht View Post
    To people that are incredibly interested in this story and following it so closely:

    1. Did you think players weren't getting money from someone at some point? Really?
    2. Are you rooting for the complete collapse of college basketball, and then, by extension because it pays for EVERYTHING, college athletics? Why?
    3. Are you thinking your school (not necessarily UK, but whatever school you cheer for) is the ONE school above all of this and will be the beneficiary of everyone around them being brought down?
    4. Are you just someone who loves seeing others suffer, in some oddly sadistic sort of way?
    1. Yes. Without question. They’d be stupid not to.

    2. I’m rooting for the complete collapse of college basketball. Why? Because I absolutely hate everything about college athletics. If the kids were getting paid for their services then my attitude around college athletics would change but fact of the matter is that college athletics is corrupt and rotten to the core so yes, I am rooting for the complete collapse of college athletics.

    3. I’m 99.9% sure that the schools I root for are dirty as hell and likely amongst the dirtiest. If they escape punishment I will laugh my butt off.

    4. Depends on what the suffering is about. Put me in the camp that doesn’t think that a bunch of blowhard overpaid college coaches will be suffering as a result of what may or may not be coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuttlesworth View Post
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    And they call that man an idiot.....stupid...blah blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    Whatever organization takes over for the NCAA will be good for a while then criticized. Unless it pays players but that in of itself, could spiral out of control.
    The whole "pay the players" thing is such a fan-thing. Who are you paying? What sports? What schools? How are you determining how much? It is such an easy bumper-sticker ("pay the athletes, they do the work"), but it is incredibly complex when you start trying to figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht View Post
    The whole "pay the players" thing is such a fan-thing. Who are you paying? What sports? What schools? How are you determining how much? It is such an easy bumper-sticker ("pay the athletes, they do the work"), but it is incredibly complex when you start trying to figure it out.
    Again, let the agents decide who is worth what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht View Post
    The whole "pay the players" thing is such a fan-thing. Who are you paying? What sports? What schools? How are you determining how much? It is such an easy bumper-sticker ("pay the athletes, they do the work"), but it is incredibly complex when you start trying to figure it out.
    The rules are slanted heavily against the players. Them getting paid for their services is just part of it. People have this fallacy that all college athletics should be paid the same. That shouldn’t be the case at all. Athletic scholarships aren’t passed out equally so why should the paychecks be passed out equally? Who is paying them? The schools should pay them. The schools can pay the coaches so why can’t they pay the players? Each individual school can determine how much an athlete gets. If School A can afford to pay their basketball players 10K for a season and School B can only afford to pay their players 3K for a season then so be it. This is America. Land of free enterprise. No reason why that can’t apply to college athletics. Oh. Wait.....

    That’s just off the top of my head. There’s no doubt in my mind that people much smarter than me can figure out a way to pay the players. Hell, how about letting them sell their jerseys and set up YouTube sites so they can make some income without jeopardizing their eligibility? Even that would be a start.

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    Kids get a free education and food and living expenses for four/five years. They are getting paid. A lot. NBA/NFL shouldn't make kids sit out a year after high school. If they want to go to the big leagues instead of college, they should be allowed to. For those that aren't good enough/want an education, the NCAA essentially educates and gives you living expenses for free as long as you play a sport.

    Now the question after that is, "should players be allowed to make more money off themselves outside what the NCAA is already guaranteeing them?" There are two outcomes to this.

    If kids can make unlimited money off their talents this eliminates any amateurism issues and shady back deals. What you see is what you get. It is fair for the players who can collect what they are worth. The bad side to this is that small schools that can't spend more money than what they already have will get screwed. They will get left behind and the thing that makes college athletics unique and intriguing is demolished. All top talent will coalesce into a few top programs who pay top dollar or who have the boosters with the deepest pockets.

    Everything is fine the way it is now, in my opinion. The NCAA just needs to actually enforce its rules on the "big programs" who seem to get away with just about anything. It literally took strippers to force the NCAA's hand, and now the FBI is getting involved where the NCAA turned a blind eye. If you can't win legitimately, big repercussions need to happen. This serves as a deterrent for anyone who would think to break rules. When situations like UNC happen and they get off without a slap on the wrist... then inevitably everyone else thinks that cheating is a risk that is worth taking to win. So enforce the damn rules and hammer the schools involved. I do not care if it is 175 out of 350.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    The rules are slanted heavily against the players. Them getting paid for their services is just part of it. People have this fallacy that all college athletics should be paid the same. That shouldn’t be the case at all. Athletic scholarships aren’t passed out equally so why should the paychecks be passed out equally? Who is paying them? The schools should pay them. The schools can pay the coaches so why can’t they pay the players? Each individual school can determine how much an athlete gets. If School A can afford to pay their basketball players 10K for a season and School B can only afford to pay their players 3K for a season then so be it. This is America. Land of free enterprise. No reason why that can’t apply to college athletics. Oh. Wait.....

    That’s just off the top of my head. There’s no doubt in my mind that people much smarter than me can figure out a way to pay the players. Hell, how about letting them sell their jerseys and set up YouTube sites so they can make some income without jeopardizing their eligibility? Even that would be a start.
    Title IX is holding for you on the pink courtesy phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht View Post
    Title IX is holding for you on the pink courtesy phone.
    Did you just assume the gender of the courtesy phone?

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