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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Good diagram. I will be willing to say the official thought for sure the Auburn player touched the ball.
    Agree 100% that’s what happened. It’s such a fast game, and seems faster with the clock ticking toward zero.

    I’ll admit to missing calls in far lower stakes games based on “I don’t understand how the ball could get to that point without a tip/violation.” He erred on the side of the tip/letting the players play while probably expecting a foul and got it wrong. I feel bad for AU, but far worse for the ref who knows he missed the call.
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    Great game to watch and a horrible way for it to end.

    UVA got away with a double dribble and Auburn absolutely fouled on the 3. I’m sure the refs didn’t want miss the double dribble or have to make the game changing foul call.

    I’m sure The refs missed calls both ways the entire game, as I’ve said before, I feel like these things usually even out in the end.

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    A question for everyone.

    In the last minute or two of a game should a coach be able to challenge this type of missed call ?

    I’m not talking about charge/blocks, carries, fouls or other judgment calls. Only black and white calls because if we’re being honest, this was clearly a blown call. No judgment or grey area to speak of.

    When a play like this takes place and the clock is stopped immediately after, should a coach be able to ask the refs to look at a very specific violation ?

    I don’t know if I would be in favor or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBWC41 View Post
    A question for everyone.

    In the last minute or two of a game should a coach be able to challenge this type of missed call ?

    I’m not talking about charge/blocks, carries, fouls or other judgment calls. Only black and white calls because if we’re being honest, this was clearly a blown call. No judgment or grey area to speak of.

    When a play like this takes place and the clock is stopped immediately after, should a coach be able to ask the refs to look at a very specific violation ?

    I don’t know if I would be in favor or not.
    It’s a no from me, dawg. Basketball is great and unique because you don’t have stoppage between every play. Like the Division 1 player dribbling off his foot, officials kick calls from time to time. Let’s not mess with something that, despite salty fans’ complaints, works pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBWC41 View Post
    A question for everyone.

    In the last minute or two of a game should a coach be able to challenge this type of missed call ?

    I’m not talking about charge/blocks, carries, fouls or other judgment calls. Only black and white calls because if we’re being honest, this was clearly a blown call. No judgment or grey area to speak of.

    When a play like this takes place and the clock is stopped immediately after, should a coach be able to ask the refs to look at a very specific violation ?

    I don’t know if I would be in favor or not.
    1000% no.

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    Are refs allowed to check for a tip/not tipped situation on an over and back call late in the game? They obviously can check an out of bounds call. I really don't know. I think that particular kicked ball should be a similar situation. If they can check it now, then they should be able to include that type of play in the check.

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    I say no to additional replay. With that being said, I don’t think Bruce Pearl even caught the double dribble so even if there was expanded replay or a challenge system, I don’t think Pearl challenges it.

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    People are so caught up in the missed double dribble call just because they want the refs to be wrong. Yes, it was a missed call, but it still didn't determine the outcome. Even with the blown call, if Auburn doesn't foul a three point shooter, they win the game and nobody talks about the missed call on the double dribble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    People are so caught up in the missed double dribble call just because they want the refs to be wrong. Yes, it was a missed call, but it still didn't determine the outcome. Even with the blown call, if Auburn doesn't foul a three point shooter, they win the game and nobody talks about the missed call on the double dribble.
    It did and did not determine the outcome. If they call the double dribble, Auburn wins...almost without question They are up one and throw the ball in from mid court. It's over. However, Auburn could obviously still have won even with the missed call. Give Guy credit. The three he made was cold blooded. He may have very well made the last one if he was not bumped. Drilling the 3 free throws in that situation was again...cold blooded. I cannot blame the refs for missing that double dribble call because it did not even occur to me that it was double dribble. It was just a weird play. Virginia is just living a very charmed life this tourney...they should have lost their last two games but are somehow playing tonight. I have a feeling the tide turns tonight and the breaks go against them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurecoach View Post
    He lied about having a grill out in his back yard lol. Every single coach almost in history is going to lie when they get accused of something, because they are going to make someone have to prove it. Just like Cal probably knew that Rose may have done something illegal with his SAT, but no reason to say he knew about it because it cant be proven. Just like Roy William's probably knew about the bogus class scandal for years. However, zero reason for him to say he knew about it. Same with Coach K, Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and just any big name coach that has had accusations about them or their program. All will deny unless it gets proven they did. Shoot some even try to deny after it was proven lol. Pearl at least did admit it a few days later that he lied about it. All the things you just said you dislike about him, can be said about almost every single big name coach at big programs lies, possible scandals, etc. That's why I wondered why your hate was so strong with him, when same can be said about coaches with even bigger profiles than him. Which I get it though sometimes we all have people we just dont like for whatever reason.

    Which good thing for you is that Cal is staying. If he were to leave soon, Pearl probably would have been on the short list of coaches UK would have reached out to lol
    … You like Pearl, I get that and don't laugh, make fun of you for it. I don't like the guy, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I do like reading your post / opinions on college basketball. I think we can agree on each others knowledge and passion for the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    People are so caught up in the missed double dribble call just because they want the refs to be wrong. Yes, it was a missed call, but it still didn't determine the outcome. Even with the blown call, if Auburn doesn't foul a three point shooter, they win the game and nobody talks about the missed call on the double dribble.
    Don't faint or go into a heart attack …. but I agree with you on this.

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