South Carolina 88 Duke 81

**JDEaston** · Mar 20, 17, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by hrcarrier

I don't think that most people did.

This guy did!

**Manitoudan** · Mar 20, 17, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

If Cal had five titles, I absolutely can sit here and say that.

You might have jumped off a bridge after the 4th .. lol

**Manitoudan** · Mar 20, 17, 02:59 PM

Old Rats a great coach, no doubt . His record speaks for its self . But .... Lol BUT , its the hypocrisy of the natl' media and the national slurpfest that just gets annoying as heck. His ability to win is only surpassed by his ability to discover the most crybaby , annoying, unlikable basketball players in the nation .
They get so hugely protected by the zebra's it hard to beat them. That adds to the dislike also . Did I mention flopping ?

**MentschTrachtGottLacht** · Mar 20, 17, 03:31 PM

An interesting stat, moderately germane to this thread and where it has meandered off to. Since the 2005 NCAA Tourney, through the 2016 tourney (not including the first two rounds of this one:, here are the "against the spread" winning percentage of NCAA Coaches (ranked by profit had you bet $100 on every game) [I included coaches with 12 plus games, with the additions of Mick and Tubby for local relevance]:

1. Billy Donovan (30 games) covered 66.7% of the time.
2. John Beilein (19 games) covered 73.7% of the time.
3. Brad Stevens (16 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
4. Sean Miller (25 games) covered 64.0% of the time.
5. Chris Mack (12 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
8. John Calipari (44 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
9. Gregg Marshall (17 games) covered 64.7% of the time.
11. Roy Williams (37 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
17. Matt Painter (16 games) covered 62.5% of the time.
18. Bo Ryan (26 games) covered 57.7% of the time.
19. Rick Pitino (30 games) covered 56.7% of the time.
22. Jim Boeheim (25 games) covered 56.0% of the time.
28. Bob Huggins (16 games) covered 56.3% of the time.
35. Tom Izzo (32 games) covered 53.1% of the time.
38. Jim Calhoun (17 games) covered 52.9% of the time.
39. Bill Self (37 games) covered 51.4% of the time.
45. Bruce Pearl (16 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
47. Coach K (32 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
53. Mick Cronin (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
60. Tubby Smith (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
62. Jay Wright (27 games) covered 48.1% of the time.
63. Tom Crean (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
70. Scott Drew (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
71. Steve Alford (12 games) covered 41.7% of the time.
76. John Thompson III (17 games) covered 41.2% of the time.
77. Ben Howland (21 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
78. Mark Few (25 games) covered 44.0% of the time.
81. Mike Brey (16 games) covered 31.3% of the time.
82. Rick Barnes (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
83. Jamie Dixon (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
84. Thad Matta (27 games) covered 37.0% of the time.

**Hellbird** · Mar 20, 17, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht

An interesting stat, moderately germane to this thread and where it has meandered off to. Since the 2005 NCAA Tourney, through the 2016 tourney (not including the first two rounds of this one:, here are the "against the spread" winning percentage of NCAA Coaches (ranked by profit had you bet $100 on every game) [I included coaches with 12 plus games, with the additions of Mick and Tubby for local relevance]:

1. Billy Donovan (30 games) covered 66.7% of the time.
2. John Beilein (19 games) covered 73.7% of the time.
3. Brad Stevens (16 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
4. Sean Miller (25 games) covered 64.0% of the time.
5. Chris Mack (12 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
8. John Calipari (44 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
9. Gregg Marshall (17 games) covered 64.7% of the time.
11. Roy Williams (37 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
17. Matt Painter (16 games) covered 62.5% of the time.
18. Bo Ryan (26 games) covered 57.7% of the time.
19. Rick Pitino (30 games) covered 56.7% of the time.
22. Jim Boeheim (25 games) covered 56.0% of the time.
28. Bob Huggins (16 games) covered 56.3% of the time.
35. Tom Izzo (32 games) covered 53.1% of the time.
38. Jim Calhoun (17 games) covered 52.9% of the time.
39. Bill Self (37 games) covered 51.4% of the time.
45. Bruce Pearl (16 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
47. Coach K (32 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
53. Mick Cronin (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
60. Tubby Smith (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
62. Jay Wright (27 games) covered 48.1% of the time.
63. Tom Crean (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
70. Scott Drew (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
71. Steve Alford (12 games) covered 41.7% of the time.
76. John Thompson III (17 games) covered 41.2% of the time.
77. Ben Howland (21 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
78. Mark Few (25 games) covered 44.0% of the time.
81. Mike Brey (16 games) covered 31.3% of the time.
82. Rick Barnes (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
83. Jamie Dixon (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
84. Thad Matta (27 games) covered 37.0% of the time.

Interesting.

**Science Friction** · Mar 20, 17, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht

An interesting stat, moderately germane to this thread and where it has meandered off to. Since the 2005 NCAA Tourney, through the 2016 tourney (not including the first two rounds of this one:, here are the "against the spread" winning percentage of NCAA Coaches (ranked by profit had you bet $100 on every game) [I included coaches with 12 plus games, with the additions of Mick and Tubby for local relevance]:

1. Billy Donovan (30 games) covered 66.7% of the time.
2. John Beilein (19 games) covered 73.7% of the time.
3. Brad Stevens (16 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
4. Sean Miller (25 games) covered 64.0% of the time.
5. Chris Mack (12 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
8. John Calipari (44 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
9. Gregg Marshall (17 games) covered 64.7% of the time.
11. Roy Williams (37 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
17. Matt Painter (16 games) covered 62.5% of the time.
18. Bo Ryan (26 games) covered 57.7% of the time.
19. Rick Pitino (30 games) covered 56.7% of the time.
22. Jim Boeheim (25 games) covered 56.0% of the time.
28. Bob Huggins (16 games) covered 56.3% of the time.
35. Tom Izzo (32 games) covered 53.1% of the time.
38. Jim Calhoun (17 games) covered 52.9% of the time.
39. Bill Self (37 games) covered 51.4% of the time.
45. Bruce Pearl (16 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
47. Coach K (32 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
53. Mick Cronin (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
60. Tubby Smith (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
62. Jay Wright (27 games) covered 48.1% of the time.
63. Tom Crean (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
70. Scott Drew (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
71. Steve Alford (12 games) covered 41.7% of the time.
76. John Thompson III (17 games) covered 41.2% of the time.
77. Ben Howland (21 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
78. Mark Few (25 games) covered 44.0% of the time.
81. Mike Brey (16 games) covered 31.3% of the time.
82. Rick Barnes (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
83. Jamie Dixon (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
84. Thad Matta (27 games) covered 37.0% of the time.

Billy will make you a "milly"; Matta won't make you" squatta" !!!

**TheDeuce** · Mar 20, 17, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Manitoudan

You might have jumped off a bridge after the 4th .. lol

Nah. I don't take it as seriously as you guys do.

**Wireman** · Mar 20, 17, 07:30 PM

I tried to read this but overheated. What exactly are we saying here?

**Clyde** · Mar 20, 17, 08:44 PM

For those complaining about the block call when Kennard drove late it was the correct call. The rule clearly says the defender cannot be moving forward. SC's defender got in position and then moved forward when Kennard started his shot.

Kennard got a rough call on his 5th foul. Not sure how he fouled with the offensive player backing into him.

**woodsrider** · Mar 20, 17, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Clyde

For those complaining about the block call when Kennard drove late it was the correct call. The rule clearly says the defender cannot be moving forward. SC's defender got in position and then moved forward when Kennard started his shot.

Kennard got a rough call on his 5th foul. Not sure how he fouled with the offensive player backing into him.

I agree on the block call, the defender was still stepping up when Kennard left his feet. Didn't see the 5th foul.

**Wireman** · Mar 21, 17, 08:17 AM

Hard to believe there was a sketchy call in the NCAA Tournament.

**lawildcat** · Mar 21, 17, 10:46 AM

Still smiling!

**Earth's Savior** · Mar 21, 17, 12:06 PM

This is exactly how you can measure the greatest of Coach K and DUKE since he has been there.. When everyone is so happy to see them lose and, they try their hardest to come up with reasons they aren't that good i.e.( Billy and Patriots )

**Jumper_Dad** · Mar 21, 17, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht

An interesting stat, moderately germane to this thread and where it has meandered off to. Since the 2005 NCAA Tourney, through the 2016 tourney (not including the first two rounds of this one:, here are the "against the spread" winning percentage of NCAA Coaches (ranked by profit had you bet $100 on every game) [I included coaches with 12 plus games, with the additions of Mick and Tubby for local relevance]:

1. Billy Donovan (30 games) covered 66.7% of the time.
2. John Beilein (19 games) covered 73.7% of the time.
3. Brad Stevens (16 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
4. Sean Miller (25 games) covered 64.0% of the time.
5. Chris Mack (12 games) covered 75.0% of the time.
8. John Calipari (44 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
9. Gregg Marshall (17 games) covered 64.7% of the time.
11. Roy Williams (37 games) covered 56.8% of the time.
17. Matt Painter (16 games) covered 62.5% of the time.
18. Bo Ryan (26 games) covered 57.7% of the time.
19. Rick Pitino (30 games) covered 56.7% of the time.
22. Jim Boeheim (25 games) covered 56.0% of the time.
28. Bob Huggins (16 games) covered 56.3% of the time.
35. Tom Izzo (32 games) covered 53.1% of the time.
38. Jim Calhoun (17 games) covered 52.9% of the time.
39. Bill Self (37 games) covered 51.4% of the time.
45. Bruce Pearl (16 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
47. Coach K (32 games) covered 50.0% of the time.
53. Mick Cronin (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
60. Tubby Smith (9 games) covered 44.4% of the time.
62. Jay Wright (27 games) covered 48.1% of the time.
63. Tom Crean (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
70. Scott Drew (14 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
71. Steve Alford (12 games) covered 41.7% of the time.
76. John Thompson III (17 games) covered 41.2% of the time.
77. Ben Howland (21 games) covered 42.9% of the time.
78. Mark Few (25 games) covered 44.0% of the time.
81. Mike Brey (16 games) covered 31.3% of the time.
82. Rick Barnes (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
83. Jamie Dixon (19 games) covered 31.6% of the time.
84. Thad Matta (27 games) covered 37.0% of the time.

Assuming these numbers are correct and I gave no reason to believe that they arent...any one else shocked that Cal has coached more NCAA games, by a lot, than any other coach?

**MentschTrachtGottLacht** · Mar 21, 17, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad

Assuming these numbers are correct and I gave no reason to believe that they arent...any one else shocked that Cal has coached more NCAA games, by a lot, than any other coach?

They are correct, not including this year's tourney, and this is just since 2005. I'm not surprised at all, but I do think as much of the story of that ranking is the number of games coached in the Dance in this 12 year span.