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    First off, I have no problems staying in college only for the one required year as they prepare themselves for the next level. A large portion of NBA players come from less than desirable living situations and go to the league with the primary goal of getting their families out of that situation, which is commendable and completely understandable.

    In the background of this conversation is the thought that college athletes should be payed for the money they bring the school in ticket sales, merchandise, television rights, so on and so forth. Again I see no problem with this. Obviously they shouldn't make much more than minimum wage, but being compensated for their impact on the university is, again, understandable.

    "What's your point Snottie? I have work to finish up here..." I'm in the same boat.

    I cooked up this idea with my bacon this morning, so it is flawed, but like the bacon, it should be satisfying.

    The NBA should require a degree like most every other billion(?) dollar corporation. Whether that be in marketing, or advertising, or broadcast journalism, or whatever the case may be. Wouldn't the NBA benefit from having people with the education to stay with the company after their playing days are forgotten? Not to mention getting experienced men, with more polished games.

    In regards to the players, they benefit from having knowledge outside of basketball in the likely event they don't pan out in the league, or injure themselves, or any number of things that those supporting the one and done rule mention when defending a young man's decision to leave school early. Granted, the jobs offered with a degree are generally far less lucrative than what can be earned in the NBA, but a steady living is a good alternative. Plus they get more time to refine their skills and become a star at the next level.

    As for the universities, what do you think UK would have given Anthony Davis to stay for four years? What would they have stood to earn off Brow-led teams, Brow merchandise, and a couple national championships? We can only speculate, but I'd assume it would be a metric ton. In addition, they get a bump in graduation rate, presumably leading to more grant money to fund that Rupp renovation that we've all been waiting for.

    As I said, this is just in the early stages of being a potential thought, leading to what could possibly be a logical idea, with the opportunity to one day maybe almost be a solution to the one and done issue.
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    The one and done is ruining college basketball as we used to know it. You no longer can identify with certain players because they are here today and gone tomorrow. You never really get to see them develop as players or as young men. Let's face it there is a large percentage of people that follow college basketball who could care less about the NBA. Once a player leaves your favorite school they are forgotten and most people have no idea where they even are. If kids out of high school don't want to spend 4 years in college let them go overseas and play or go straight to the league. I know the idea was to try to get unprepared kids ready for the life in the pros by spending 1 year in college. I just don't think it's working. For every Anthony Davis there are many Daniel Ortons. Change the rule like it is in baseball or football or get rid of it altogether.

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    Pure craziness , my man. Require a degree? There's no correlation between performance of the player, value to the NBA team, and a degree. Why add an unnecessary layer?

    I hope your bacon was better than your initial thought.

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    One and done sucks for the fan. The young men who go their whole life prepping to play basketball because they think they will make it in the bigs are stupid. It's allowed so I'm OK with a kid going for the big bucks after year one. they are the ones that will make a few dollars. If a kid can't go pro and gets free schooling he should make the most of the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Pure craziness , my man. Require a degree? There's no correlation between performance of the player, value to the NBA team, and a degree. Why add an unnecessary layer?

    I hope your bacon was better than your initial thought.
    The bacon was perfect. Like I said, the idea could use some tinkering.

    I do think there is a correlation though. How many jobs can you go in making a million per year without a diploma? How do they decide who is deserving of said jobs? I don't know the answer to the first question, but the answer to the second is qualifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Living View Post
    The one and done is ruining college basketball as we used to know it. You no longer can identify with certain players because they are here today and gone tomorrow. You never really get to see them develop as players or as young men. Let's face it there is a large percentage of people that follow college basketball who could care less about the NBA. Once a player leaves your favorite school they are forgotten and most people have no idea where they even are. If kids out of high school don't want to spend 4 years in college let them go overseas and play or go straight to the league. I know the idea was to try to get unprepared kids ready for the life in the pros by spending 1 year in college. I just don't think it's working. For every Anthony Davis there are many Daniel Ortons. Change the rule like it is in baseball or football or get rid of it altogether.
    And for every college hoops fan who forgets about a player there's an NBA fan complaining about the quality of the players being drafted and a player who left too soon because his stock was up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnottieDrippen View Post
    The bacon was perfect. Like I said, the idea could use some tinkering.

    I do think there is a correlation though. How many jobs can you go in making a million per year without a diploma? How do they decide who is deserving of said jobs? I don't know the answer to the first question, but the answer to the second is qualifications.
    You still haven't shown how a degree benefits a professional athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    You still haven't shown how a degree benefits a professional athlete.
    What's Kwame Brown doing right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    You still haven't shown how a degree benefits a professional athlete.
    I don't like the idea. But to be fair with a lot of entry level positions the degree really doesn't help with the position employers just use it as a part of a checklist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnottieDrippen View Post
    What's Kwame Brown doing right now?

    Dude made over $60M. You proved my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Dude made over $60M. You proved my point.
    Jay Williams would probably have been the better example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnottieDrippen View Post
    Jay Williams would probably have been the better example.
    Jay Williams made more in his few seasons in the NBA before his injury ended his career, than I will my whole life and I have two masters degrees.

    These players can always go back to college, but you can lose millions by being forced to stay in college if by staying in college makes your stock go down.

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    We say one and done has ruined it for the fans, but I'd think the majority of UK fans (except those that think Cal needs replaced) wouldn't think it's ruined. I bet Duke fans from last year don't think that the college game is ruined either. Kansas fans probably don't think it's ruined.

    If you're a purist, then find a team in the Patriot league to cheer for and get pumped for their conference tournament.

    Do I think the one and done is great for college bball? No. To act like it's a ruined the product has become a tired narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    You still haven't shown how a degree benefits a professional athlete.
    Maybe here is why?
    The 9 Most Financially Irresponsible Players in NBA History | Bleacher Report

    Actually some of these guys actually have degrees, I'm guessing just not in finance. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnottieDrippen View Post
    The bacon was perfect. Like I said, the idea could use some tinkering.

    I do think there is a correlation though. How many jobs can you go in making a million per year without a diploma? How do they decide who is deserving of said jobs? I don't know the answer to the first question, but the answer to the second is qualifications.
    Anyone can be an entrepreneur in this great country of ours without a degree. Didn't Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg both drop out of college to pursue their companies? Those dudes declared early for life and it worked out well for them.

    My point is that a degree doesn't correlate to success in the NBA, so I can't see the logic behind requiring a degree. In many aspects of the working world, we don't require the degree. Basketball mirrors many of those careers. The amount of money generated by the players has zero to do with the degree they would receive, so I can't see the sense in forcing this route on players.

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