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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cat View Post
    I don't care what team you root for, the refs made it impossible to enjoy watching that game. Even had UK won, while I would have been happy with the result, I was miserable watching the game. Almost to the point that I wanted to just quit watching and read about who won later. No flow at all.
    I did go to bed with about 13 minutes left. Sleep seemed like the thing to do rather stay and be tortured by the flow of the game. Cut my losses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDEaston View Post
    Are you saying Cal got outcoached...
    I donít know if he got out coached but he had GOLDEN opportunity for his best coaching job and is on his way back to Lexington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    That would go against everything Cal believes in though. He's preparing them to be the most successful version of themselves at the next level. Knox will not be playing in the post, therefore they didn't focus on it. Sure it would have been good to do last night, but I don't blame Calipari for that one.

    Richards has felt like a lost cause this season. You could tell he's only played basketball for four years. Has a long way to go.
    So does he sacrifice what's good for the UK team for the good of the players to move on to the next level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    They say misery loves company so welcome to everyone here. I said itís just a game just go to sleep. I fell asleep around 2am and got up at 4:30 and went to the gym. Forced my way through the workout.

    We can say without PJ we would t have been in the game which is true, but KSU didnít seem to mind fouling him in the second half either. If you are a D1 player that gets to the line regularly there is zero excuse to miss 14 free throws. Iím sorry but poor free throw shooting is a Cal staple. As a team we shoot around 70%.

    I agree K State shot so much better than there season average but the Cats played like they had never been pressure before. How many times did we have the ball with the lead or tied scored and just played like fourth graders on each possession? We got out muscled and out hustled (besides PJ) from the opening tip. They got Knox and Shai out of there comfort zone and Quade once again showed his true colors in taking bad shots/bad decisions.

    Glad they got as far as they did and we can play the what if game every game every year. Question: after last nightís game who can seriously be considered as a first rounder? Not a lottery pick
    Quote Originally Posted by bjknku02 View Post
    In my mind, just Knox and maybe SGA. However, SGA and Diallo will go pro and most likely be out of the league in 3 years or less. The NBA is a different animal and will eat these guys up. We will be reading a story about how there time at Kentucky was the greatest time of their life.
    I would venture to say both Knox and SGA will be lottery picks or at worst top 18.
    Before last night's game people were saying SGA may be a top 10 pick. Last night's game doesn't prove he wouldn't do well in the NBA. In the NBA the floor is more spaced. The lane isn't crowded and packed like last night and there is a lot more freedom of movement without all the grabbing and bumps that happens in college especially against physical teams like K state. In the NBA with the spacing and with his height and wing span. SGA is going to have a long NBA career. Especially when his only job every day is to work on basketball.

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    UK needed to jump on them quickly and just the opposite happened. K-State jumped out to a double digit lead and then controlled the pace of the game and milked the shot clock.
    UK looked like they were going to be ok when they went up by 38-36 and had possession of the ball, but Green was stripped of the ball and a layup made and the next possession they called Alexander for a charge, after which K-State made a 3 on their possession. Thatís a big turnaround. After that K-State increased the lead to 8 points and I knew the rest of the game was going to be a struggle for UK. Because when K-State is in that position they can make the game ugly, and they did.

    Bottom line though, K-State played and shot the ball way above their norm, so I suppose they rose to the occasion. By getting the lead they were able to play their style and dictate the pace, one that UK does not like.
    And UK made too many turnovers and missed free throws. Washington 8-20 on free throws is inexcusable. Talk about taking gas!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyPittman View Post
    Is this true? Didn't see end of game. Did Kentucky leave and not shake hands with K-State?

    Kansas State Wildcats players upset that Kentucky Wildcats players left court without shaking hands
    Listening to ESPN this morning they said it was a non-issue. K-State was celebrating, UK waited for a bit, then left. I saw Weber going through shaking hands and such so it is not like everyone bolted. I think the line formed, got to the end of it and the KState players had not followed suit yet. I don't blame either side.

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    The Cats did in fact shake hands with the coaches for kState, however the kState players were (and well deservedly) still celebrating the win. Cats shook coaches hands and moved on to the locker room, non story.

    If Cal is (and sometimes I truly believe he does) putting individuals future goals ahead of the team then this does need to be addressed. This isn't politics where if you elect me and I help you out, great. But if not oh well. This is your job, to put our players in the best position for our team to win regardless of what game it is,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    They say misery loves company so welcome to everyone here. I said itís just a game just go to sleep. I fell asleep around 2am and got up at 4:30 and went to the gym. Forced my way through the workout.

    We can say without PJ we would t have been in the game which is true, but KSU didnít seem to mind fouling him in the second half either. If you are a D1 player that gets to the line regularly there is zero excuse to miss 14 free throws. Iím sorry but poor free throw shooting is a Cal staple. As a team we shoot around 70%.

    I agree K State shot so much better than there season average but the Cats played like they had never been pressure before. How many times did we have the ball with the lead or tied scored and just played like fourth graders on each possession? We got out muscled and out hustled (besides PJ) from the opening tip. They got Knox and Shai out of there comfort zone and Quade once again showed his true colors in taking bad shots/bad decisions.

    Glad they got as far as they did and we can play the what if game every game every year. Question: after last nightís game who can seriously be considered as a first rounder? Not a lottery pick
    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    That would go against everything Cal believes in though. He's preparing them to be the most successful version of themselves at the next level. Knox will not be playing in the post, therefore they didn't focus on it. Sure it would have been good to do last night, but I don't blame Calipari for that one.

    Richards has felt like a lost cause this season. You could tell he's only played basketball for four years. Has a long way to go.
    Eh kind of. Cousins, Davis, Towns were all guys capable of playing outside more and was going to in the NBA. Yet he didn't allow them to play outside at all in college, even though their game in the NBA would allow it. So I am surprised he didn't try to let Knox do more down low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    The Cats did in fact shake hands with the coaches for kState, however the kState players were (and well deservedly) still celebrating the win. Cats shook coaches hands and moved on to the locker room, non story.

    If Cal is (and sometimes I truly believe he does) putting individuals future goals ahead of the team then this does need to be addressed. This isn't politics where if you elect me and I help you out, great. But if not oh well. This is your job, to put our players in the best position for our team to win regardless of what game it is,
    Addressed??? Who would address it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wireman View Post
    Unfortunately, a few will feel they have to go because they will be top 20 picks, a few will make terrible decisions and go anyways and the Wildcats will be right back where they are...again.
    A few will go because they know Cal has a complete new group coming in having heard the same promises they heard in their living room about grooming them for the NBA. It has worked extremely well for Cal to get top talent because so many of them have gone on to succeed in the NBA. It does, however, make it much more difficult to develop players over 2-3 years.

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    Barnhartt maybe but I'm realistic and know it can't truly be addressed. Just the Day after Blues talking. We may hate his system (I'm 50/50 on it) because it seems like he puts more emphasis on selling us that his guys go to the League after one year. But we could go back two previous coaches that had one title and no other final fours with a few regional final appearances sprinkled in. Still better by far than what we had post Pitino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    Addressed??? Who would address it?
    Agree. This is the tension of Cal's system. He is able to recruit the top talent because his greatest selling point is NOT winning a national championship, it is getting them to the NBA. For the kid and for Cal, you can hardly blame either of them.

    For BBN, it leads to constant "reloads" as kids cycle through the program largely 1 yr. at a time. They're happy when the slot machine turns up jackpot and a group like Davis or KAT are able to dominate and win / get close to winning a banner while they are there. They are apoplectic when the recruiting dice come up snake eyes and they end up losing at Robert Morris in the NIT. They are somewhere in between in years like this (glass half full - "They made the Sweet 16 which is more than I expected from them mid-season"; glass half empty - "They beat 2 teams they should have and lost to a team they should have beat in the NCAA Tournament.").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    They say misery loves company so welcome to everyone here. I said it’s just a game just go to sleep. I fell asleep around 2am and got up at 4:30 and went to the gym. Forced my way through the workout.

    We can say without PJ we would t have been in the game which is true, but KSU didn’t seem to mind fouling him in the second half either. If you are a D1 player that gets to the line regularly there is zero excuse to miss 14 free throws. I’m sorry but poor free throw shooting is a Cal staple. As a team we shoot around 70%.

    I agree K State shot so much better than there season average but the Cats played like they had never been pressure before. How many times did we have the ball with the lead or tied scored and just played like fourth graders on each possession? We got out muscled and out hustled (besides PJ) from the opening tip. They got Knox and Shai out of there comfort zone and Quade once again showed his true colors in taking bad shots/bad decisions.

    Glad they got as far as they did and we can play the what if game every game every year. Question: after last night’s game who can seriously be considered as a first rounder? Not a lottery pick
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    Barnhartt maybe but I'm realistic and know it can't truly be addressed. Just the Day after Blues talking. We may hate his system (I'm 50/50 on it) because it seems like he puts more emphasis on selling us that his guys go to the League after one year. But we could go back two previous coaches that had one title and no other final fours with a few regional final appearances sprinkled in. Still better by far than what we had post Pitino.
    It's been better than what we had with Pitino too. So I'm am not sure what people are complaining about.

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    At last, this season is OVER !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can'tcoach View Post
    So does he sacrifice what's good for the UK team for the good of the players to move on to the next level?
    Sure. Although in his mind it isn't sacrificing what's good for the team. He's said that's what brings that caliber of player to him in the first place. Since I can't think of anyone who's been more successful than he has during his UK run I'm not going to disagree with him.

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