Has the one and done killed major college basketball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Footballforever74 View Post
    Cal has killed UK basketball!
    Yeah ok... UK was borderline irrelevant for a decade until Cal came back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Footballforever74 View Post
    Cal has killed UK basketball!
    I bet you harken back to the good ole Billy Gillispie days of 13 or 14 losses and first-round losses in the NIT or NCAA, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    I bet you harken back to the good ole Billy Gillispie days of 13 or 14 losses and first-round losses in the NIT or NCAA, don't you?
    At least Tubby developed the kids before they went to the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Footballforever74 View Post
    At least Tubby developed the kids before they went to the NBA.
    Really, how many did Tubby send to that have been stars? Rondo...anyone else?

    I liked Tubby and hated to see him go, but year in and year out Cal's teams are better and have done better. Tubby made ONE final four, in his first season. Tubby lost to lower ranked teams in the tourney more often than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    I'm not, I think it's fine...I don't like the new model being proposed.

    FWIW those hating on it now have always hated on it...I don't think you'd call NCF a UK fan either that is suddenly upset by it. He's just trying to turn the screws on UK fans
    My post was about college basketball, not just one team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newarkcatholicfan View Post
    Thoughts?
    How about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newarkcatholicfan View Post
    My post was about college basketball, not just one team.
    How has the one and done impacted 95% of the schools that haven't had one and never will? One and done impacts a very small select group of schools. Not sure how UK, UNC, KU or Duke having a one and done impacts Ohio State, Indiana State or Wichita State or any of the other schools that don't have them. No coach is forced to recruit them, in fact, it seems to be harder in many respects on schools that recruit them...at some point, it catches up to you and you end up with a team of virtually all freshmen like Kentucky has this year. Even though UK is so young it doesn't impact any other school negatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Really, how many did Tubby send to that have been stars? Rondo...anyone else?

    I liked Tubby and hated to see him go, but year in and year out Cal's teams are better and have done better. Tubby made ONE final four, in his first season. Tubby lost to lower ranked teams in the tourney more often than not.
    Rondo didn’t even develop until he got to the league. Chuck Hayes is the most notable NBA player from the Tubby era that wasn’t a Pitino product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    How about you?
    I think it has hurt it, watered it down if you will. I think it has made me a bigger fan of those teams that stay away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    Rondo didn’t even develop until he got to the league. Chuck Hayes is the most notable NBA player from the Tubby era that wasn’t a Pitino product.
    I’d say Tayshaun deserves a vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    I’d say Tayshaun deserves a vote.
    Touchť. Tayshaun is definitely at the top of the list. For some reason he always gets lost in the shuffle for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newarkcatholicfan View Post
    I think it has hurt it, watered it down if you will. I think it has made me a bigger fan of those teams that stay away from it.
    Teams donít stay away from it... Most teams just donít land superstar talents. The biggest load of bologna coaches spew is that they would not take the best player(s) because said players may opt to leave for greener pastures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newarkcatholicfan View Post
    I think it has hurt it, watered it down if you will. I think it has made me a bigger fan of those teams that stay away from it.
    45 schools have had 1 and Done players since it started in 2006...who are you more a fan of now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newarkcatholicfan View Post
    I think it has hurt it, watered it down if you will. I think it has made me a bigger fan of those teams that stay away from it.
    As for the product being “watered down,” that has nothing to do with a handful of kids leaving early, that comes because the sport is over-coached and the skill level is sub-standard. The NBA is not the best TV product, but in person it moves twice as fast as a college game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    Teams don’t stay away from it... Most teams just don’t land superstar talents. The biggest load of bologna coaches spew is that they would not take the best player(s) because said players may opt to leave for greener pastures.
    Exactly...there isn't a coach in the country that would turn down a top 10 kid under most circumstances.

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