If firefighters had to do their job like police officers

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    If firefighters had to do their job like police officers

    I like this one, so much truth to it.

    A fire truck with one fireman would be sent to an address without a clear indication of the problem. The complainant is a neighbor who said they saw smoke or steam or something, maybe from the house or the alley or a vehicle. When the fire truck pulls up, the complainant runs outside and yells at the fireman for taking too long, and tells him not to park in front of his house. The fireman sees smoke from the house in question, so he knocks on the front door.

    After fifteen minutes of knocking, a person who barely speaks English answers the door and says there is no fire. Smoke is billowing out the door. The homeowner tells the fireman to screw off and slams the door in his face.

    The fireman goes to his truck and checks the computer to see if this house has burned before. He finds out the house has a history of fires, and smoke is now coming through the roof. The fireman requests a warrant to fight the fire, and has to state his reasons to believe the house is burning. Neighbors are now banging on the fire truck and screaming for the fireman to do something. A bystander is taking video with his cell phone and demanding to know the fireman's name and badge number. The fireman radios for another truck and two additional firemen.

    In about an hour they get the warrant, and they start to pour water on the house. Neighbors yell outside and complain the trucks are too loud. The firemen go inside, resuscitate the homeowner and put out the flames. The fireman then sits in his truck and makes notes while he eats a convenience store burrito and cold coffee. He writes a report to state why he thought the house was burning, how the fire was put out, and that they took no more steps than absolutely necessary. He makes a list of everybody that was affected by the fire, including their name, date of birth and address, and how they were affected.

    Before he finishes his reports, another complaint comes in and the same process occurs at another address. This happens five more times that shift. At the end of the shift the fireman goes back to the station and submits his reports to the captain, who asks if the fireman was sure all the houses that day had been on fire, and if he was justified in putting them all out. The report is then officially submitted.

    Seven months later the fireman is called to court to swear that the house was on fire, and that his warrant to fight the fire was accurate. The homeowner's lawyer cross examines the fireman and asks the exact temperature of the flames (in Celsius and Fahrenheit), what stage the fire was at when the fireman first pulled up, the color of the carpet in the home, how much water they used, why they broke the lock on the door, why did the windows get smashed, would the house have burned if the firemen had not showed up at all, who reported the fire, how did they know it was smoke and not steam, if their fire truck was properly certified, and was their training up to date.

    Five months later the court rules that the house actually had been on fire and the fireman was justified in putting it out, but they chastise the fireman for getting the rug dirty, wrecking a shrub, and bruising the homeowner's ribs doing CPR. The homeowner is awarded damages, and the fire department puts a disciplinary letter on his file for ruining the shrub.

    Six months later the fireman gets a photo radar ticket for speeding on the way to the fire and has to justify himself.
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    I've seen something similar before.

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    Maybe when firefighters start setting fires at the homes of certain individuals and getting away with it, the jobs can be similar in that way also.

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    Seems like a good cop would have known about exigent circumstances and would probably understand what he could and couldn't get away with in making his reports, even if it wasn't the 100% truth.

    No oversimplifications in the above at all. It's the all the red tape everyone else puts out there that makes the job so hard. Probably shouldn't even have to ask for a warrant, file a report, or testify with as hard as that makes it come off. Wouldn't that be great?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JokersWild24 View Post
    Seems like a good cop would have known about exigent circumstances and would probably understand what he could and couldn't get away with in making his reports, even if it wasn't the 100% truth.

    No oversimplifications in the above at all. It's the all the red tape everyone else puts out there that makes the job so hard. Probably shouldn't even have to ask for a warrant, file a report, or testify with as hard as that makes it come off. Wouldn't that be great?
    You are over analyzing it.

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    I'm not sure the point of this. They aren't the same job.

    What's your issue with firefighters Ru?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I'm not sure the point of this. They aren't the same job.

    What's your issue with firefighters Ru?
    I love firefighters but I would be lying if I said I didn't like to give them a hard time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Maybe when firefighters start setting fires at the homes of certain individuals and getting away with it, the jobs can be similar in that way also.
    Someone could write and excellent parody and include something like that in it about cops. Sharp mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Someone could write and excellent parody and include something like that in it about cops. Sharp mind!
    I think the counter it is that many see the police videos circulating and are wondering if cops are treating situations like fires. And before HB20 chimes in, I am not one of those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    I think the counter it is that many see the police videos circulating and are wondering if cops are treating situations like fires. And before HB20 chimes in, I am not one of those people.
    Maybe this sounds a little arrogant but being a police officer is a very demanding job and too many people that are hired for the job are not suited for it.

    I look at it just like teachers, both teachers and police officers should be paid a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Maybe this sounds a little arrogant but being a police officer is a very demanding job and too many people that are hired for the job are not suited for it.

    I look at it just like teachers, both teachers and police officers should be paid a lot more.
    I concur. There would be no way on earth I would choose it as a profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Maybe this sounds a little arrogant but being a police officer is a very demanding job and too many people that are hired for the job are not suited for it.

    I look at it just like teachers, both teachers and police officers should be paid a lot more.


    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I look at it just like teachers, both teachers and police officers should be paid a lot more.
    I agree, and you can add firefighters in there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I agree, and you can add firefighters in there as well.
    Do I think firefighters should be paid more, yes, do I think firefighters should be paid as much as teachers or police officers, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Do I think firefighters should be paid more, yes, do I think firefighters should be paid as much as teachers or police officers, no.
    Who said it was a competition?

    And for the record, yes, firefighters should without question be paid more than teachers IMO. So should police officers.

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