Final Call For Officer Sonny Kim

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    I am with Clyde, we should ALWAYS release the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I am with Clyde, we should ALWAYS release the video.
    With editing capabilities I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    With editing capabilities I agree.
    I disagree.

    In our system it is supposed to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I disagree. In our system it is supposed to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
    Nobody hid any truth, technically with all the witnesses standing by a video wasn't needed in this case. The family, who is the only person who truly lost here should have some say. There is no reason the 3 boys, nor any potential people who might be against them, should have the capability to rewind their fathers death video over and over for them.

    I look at it from a different perspective. In this circumstance you could actually open up a different law suit, if the boys suffer PTSD from the video, or if they completely become emotionally disabled from it. It should be a case-by-case situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    Nobody hid any truth, technically with all the witnesses standing by a video wasn't needed in this case. The family, who is the only person who truly lost here should have some say. There is no reason the 3 boys, nor any potential people who might be against them, should have the capability to rewind their fathers death video over and over for them.

    I look at it from a different perspective. In this circumstance you could actually open up a different law suit, if the boys suffer PTSD from the video, or if they completely become emotionally disabled from it. It should be a case-by-case situation.
    I am just going to counter with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post

    I am just going to counter with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
    No one needs to see anything, they want to.

    I don't care if is released or not FWIW. I feel bad for his family having this dragged out for so long though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    No one needs to see anything, they want to.

    I don't care if is released or not FWIW. I feel bad for his family having this dragged out for so long though.
    Society at large does and if the police want everyone to trust them then the police need it to be released too.

    I understand it is probably horrible for the family but government needs to be transparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post

    Society at large does and if the police want everyone to trust them then the police need it to be released too.

    I understand it is probably horrible for the family but government needs to be transparent.
    I'd bet the majority of the public doesn't want the video released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    I'd bet the majority of the public doesn't want the video released.
    What we want and what is in our best interests can be two different things.

    Besides, nobody has to watch the video.

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    What a huge black eye for Mayor Cranley during election time. How do you not vet these requests before making a proclamation?!?

    Mayor Cranley's office inadvertently honors killer of Officer Sonny Kim

    Cincinnati Mayor John Cranley on Thursday night emotionally apologized to the police union after the city "mistakenly" issued a proclamation in honor of a man who killed Officer Sonny Kim nearly two years ago.

    The father of Trepierre Hummons posted a proclamation on Facebook declaring June 1 as "Tre Day," prompting Cranley to issue an apology letter to the Fraternal Order of Police. Cranley's office also sent a letter to Ronald Hummons officially retracting the proclamation.

    Cranley, who's been a strong supporter of law enforcement, was visibly broken during a press conference standing alongside FOP President Dan Hils at the police union hall in Over-the-Rhine.

    "This was a huge mistake," Cranley said. "It's not done intentionally. It's human error, but the buck stops with me."

    "I love our police department," he said, breaking down in tears. "I would never do anything to hurt them."

    Cranley paused.

    "I'm sorry," he said.

    The mayor added he has called Kim's widow to apologize. In addition to the letter, Hils said, the mayor "apologized to me personally."

    What we know about Officer Sonny Kim, fatal shooting
    The release of the proclamation comes one day before fallen officers are set to be honored in the city. It also comes in an election year -- and on the heels of Cranley's crushing loss to City Councilwoman Yvette Simpson earlier this month.

    Simpson declined comment.

    News of the proclamation first broke on the FOP's Facebook page around 6:30 p.m. Thursday with an officer posting a photo of the proclamation. The officer posted: "Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?"

    Another officer then posted: "If this is real, something must be done ... I'm having trouble finding the words."

    The mayor's office receives several proclamation requests from citizens each week. Cranley doesn’t see them all; instead the requests filter through the mayor's press office. In this case, Cranley explained in a letter to FOP President Dan Hils that last week the mayor's office received a request to issue a proclamation from Ronald Hummons for his “son’s birthday.”

    The wording discussed child abuse and fighting mental illness and never mentioned TrePierre’s last name. A staffer drew up the proclamation and it was approved by Cranley’s Deputy Chief of Staff Holly Stutz Smith. A stamp was used for the mayor's signature.

    “Neither of them looked further into the context of the proclamation,” Cranley said in the letter.

    Hummons made the request to the mayor’s office, but when he didn’t immediately hear back, he reached out to City Council candidate Tamaya Dennerd and then Councilman Wendell Young’s aide, Melanie Ervin.

    Dennard had helped Hummons with a proclamation for his business several years ago, when she was Councilman P.G. Sittenfeld’s aide. Dennard no longer works at City Hall and suggested maybe Young could help.

    “I told him I don’t know if they’ll do it, you can try,” Dennard told The Enquirer. “His son suffered mental illness, battled depression. It’s tough. Officers put their lives on the line. Two people died that day. Ronald lost his son, too. He wanted to memorialize his son.”

    The Enquirer has seen an email from Hummons to Ervin sent on May 11, in which he says “My name is Ronald, friend of Tamaya, father of Trepierre Hummons. She gave me your email to see if you could help me with a proclamation I applied for for my son… My team and have done some incredible work on behalf of the foundation I've set up for him and with his birthday coming up I was hoping to get it to celebrate the impact that we're having on mental health. I haven't gotten a response back from the mayors office about it but I did ask Tamaya to help do (sic) to the sensitivity of it.”

    Young said he was not aware of the request.

    “I do not know Mr. Hummons nor did I know his his son, but I certainly knew Sonny Kim and there is no way that I would assist with a proclamation for a cop killer,” Young said.

    He added: “Whatever is going on in John’s office is his problem, but I would think they would routinely vet all their requests. Had they done that, I believe they would not have issued that proclamation.”

    Kim was gunned down June 19, 2015, in a Madisonville street after police said Hummons lured the officer there with two 911 calls. The 48-year-old father of three wasn't supposed to be on duty when he was fatally shot, but he'd been tapped to work overtime because the city was combating an uptick in crime.

    After being shot by Hummons and falling to the ground, Kim struggled with Hummons, who eventually wrestled the officer's semi-automatic handgun from his hands. Hummons, 21, began shooting at a Hamilton County probation officer who had stopped to assist. Another Cincinnati police officer pulled up and shot and killed Hummons.

    His prior behavior indicated he intended to commit "suicide by cop," police said.

    Kim was the first Cincinnati police officer killed in the line of duty since 2000.

    Speaking at Kim's funeral at Xavier University, Cranley called the shooting of the officer an act of evil.

    "We have a lot of questions for God today," Cranley said then. "Our faith is being tested. Why did the good guy lose?"

    Public safety has been among Cranley's top priorities since he was elected in 2013. He has added more than 150 new police recruits and increased the sworn force by more than 100 officers. Cranley was endorsed by the FOP in 2013 and was again ahead of this month's primary.

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    So rumor has it that one of the members of city council pushed this one thru so it would be a black eye for the mayor and his re election campaign. Hmmmm.

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