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    AAU Top 5 Rankings

    Saw where Prep Hoops KY did this a few weeks ago, and now they have released their second rankings of the season for top 5 per age division. Thoughts?

    @PrepHoopsKY: 17U Grassroot Rankings
    1. @OfficialHDHoops
    2. @travelersHoops
    3. @TBC_Elite
    4. @manimal_team
    5. @SSSports_Boys

    @PrepHoopsKY: 16u Grassroot Rankings
    1. @WKYEliteAAU
    2. @OfficialHDHoops
    3. @Lville_Magic
    4. @travelersHoops
    5. @Rich_nlsports

    @PrepHoopsKY: 15U Grassroots Rankings
    1. @Lville_Magic
    2. @OfficialHDHoops
    3. @MMenifee
    4. @KYTHUNDER
    5. @WKYEliteAAU
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    The 17u looks right to me. I don't think the Travelers could play anywhere close to hoop dreams. HD way to athletic IMO

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    Not a big fan of rankings, especially spring and summer ball. We will see how this all pans out in the next couple of months.

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    Its hard to look at the 17u travelers and say any team in our state is better than them, only because they don't compete against anyone in our state. If they played in state aau tourney we could really see the state of ky best teams square off. If we are going on wins alone and not potential, then TBC should be first IMO.

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    It's very hard to rank AAU teams without watching them all and preferably against each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_strong View Post
    The 17u looks right to me. I don't think the Travelers could play anywhere close to hoop dreams. HD way to athletic IMO
    We'll never know.....

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    It frustrates me when "elite" programs proclaim themselves as the TOP programs in the state on both the boys and the girls side. But they never play in the State tournament to prove it. Is it because its easier to claim that title than prove it? Or do they look at the state title as they have nothing to gain and everything to lose? It's easy to say your the best in the state when you don't go to the state tournament and prove it. I just think all the elite programs (boys/girls) should play the state tournament. Then we can see who is the best. As they always say "talk is cheap".

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    ^ Eddie Ford did that for years, up until near the end his teams never played in state teams, and wouldn't allow in state teams to play in his tourney. Then people finally saw what you have mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8675309 View Post
    It frustrates me when "elite" programs proclaim themselves as the TOP programs in the state on both the boys and the girls side. But they never play in the State tournament to prove it. Is it because its easier to claim that title than prove it? Or do they look at the state title as they have nothing to gain and everything to lose? It's easy to say your the best in the state when you don't go to the state tournament and prove it. I just think all the elite programs (boys/girls) should play the state tournament. Then we can see who is the best. As they always say "talk is cheap".
    This year, the Travelers do have an EYBL stop the same weekend as AAU State so they have a legitimate reason not to play state.

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    Although this is my second year out of the game (working on doctorate), there is one thing I can still say with certainty...the level of competition in the EYBL is far superior to anything else out there. It's not close, and it's not really debatable. Certainly there are some good teams on the Adidas and Under Armour circuits, but the vast majority of the best talent plays in the EYBL.

    I can't speak to the talent on any of the teams in Kentucky, other than Braxton Beverly. Although there are one or two players in the 2016 class that are generally ranked higher than Braxton (mainly due to size, athleticism, etc.), there is no doubt that he has been consistently the most productive player in the 2016 class against the elite competition. As such, based on his production (not potential) in the EYBL over the past three years, he is clearly the best player in the state in the 2016 class.

    It is also worth mentioning that Nike's rules are more restrictive when it comes to re-classifications. For example, a senior cannot reclassify and play in the EYBL, so players such as Aric Holman in Kentucky (Hoop Dreams) and LaGerald Vick and Nick Marshall (Team Thad in Memphis) would not be eligible to play in the EYBL this year, whereas they are eligible to play for other programs. And there is no question these three young men are outstanding players.

    Re-classifications are only eligible to play in the EYBL if the process is complete and paperwork is submitted PRIOR to the student-athlete beginning his senior year of high school. As a side note, I think the re-classification policy is beneficial to different kids for different reasons. Some need the academic work, some have early birthdays and can benefit from an extra year of weights, etc., and some need the time to recover from an injury.

    Basically, there is nothing wrong with re-classifying, but Nike is more restrictive with its policies in that regard.

    Just some insights I can offer from experience. I can't offer an informed opinion on who the best teams are this year, so it would be unfair for me to do so. Based on what little I hear, I think it's fair to say there are a lot of good players in the state and the talent is spread out somewhat.

    I hope all the teams do well. The passion for high school basketball in Kentucky is something special, and it's been enjoyable to witness it and be a small part of it. It's interesting to see how much things are different across state lines (football is king in Tennessee) and how the communities view things differently in respect to basketball there and football here.

    Look forward to keeping up this year, when time allows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler Tradition View Post
    Although this is my second year out of the game (working on doctorate), there is one thing I can still say with certainty...the level of competition in the EYBL is far superior to anything else out there. It's not close, and it's not really debatable. Certainly there are some good teams on the Adidas and Under Armour circuits, but the vast majority of the best talent plays in the EYBL.

    I can't speak to the talent on any of the teams in Kentucky, other than Braxton Beverly. Although there are one or two players in the 2016 class that are generally ranked higher than Braxton (mainly due to size, athleticism, etc.), there is no doubt that he has been consistently the most productive player in the 2016 class against the elite competition. As such, based on his production (not potential) in the EYBL over the past three years, he is clearly the best player in the state in the 2016 class.

    It is also worth mentioning that Nike's rules are more restrictive when it comes to re-classifications. For example, a senior cannot reclassify and play in the EYBL, so players such as Aric Holman in Kentucky (Hoop Dreams) and LaGerald Vick and Nick Marshall (Team Thad in Memphis) would not be eligible to play in the EYBL this year, whereas they are eligible to play for other programs. And there is no question these three young men are outstanding players.

    Re-classifications are only eligible to play in the EYBL if the process is complete and paperwork is submitted PRIOR to the student-athlete beginning his senior year of high school. As a side note, I think the re-classification policy is beneficial to different kids for different reasons. Some need the academic work, some have early birthdays and can benefit from an extra year of weights, etc., and some need the time to recover from an injury.

    Basically, there is nothing wrong with re-classifying, but Nike is more restrictive with its policies in that regard.

    Just some insights I can offer from experience. I can't offer an informed opinion on who the best teams are this year, so it would be unfair for me to do so. Based on what little I hear, I think it's fair to say there are a lot of good players in the state and the talent is spread out somewhat.

    I hope all the teams do well. The passion for high school basketball in Kentucky is something special, and it's been enjoyable to witness it and be a small part of it. It's interesting to see how much things are different across state lines (football is king in Tennessee) and how the communities view things differently in respect to basketball there and football here.

    Look forward to keeping up this year, when time allows.
    You make some good points. Braxton is a great player and I am a huge fan of his game BUT he is not the top 2016 player in Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopDreamsCoachQ View Post
    You make some good points. Braxton is a great player and I am a huge fan of his game BUT he is not the top 2016 player in Kentucky.
    I second that statement, Quentin Goodin and Eli Wright are #1 and 2 depending who you ask. I believe Braxton is 3 and Mason Faulkner #4 . But back to the topic, I just believe you cant put the travelers in the conversation with Ky teams because none of these teams get to play them. Who wouldn't want to see these top 5 programs go head to head? It would be a show!!!

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    In no way bashing the Travelers at all, but if your a true fan of the game then lets put a field or tourney together that would allow "The state of ky best program" to actually play against state competition because I believe some people would be surprised how close the competition is.

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    I agree 100% with the above statement. Beverly is good but not the best in 2016

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    Has anyone in the 2016 class performed better than Beverly against elite competition for 2-plus years? The answer is no.

    Are there better players in KY in the 2016 class? Maybe, maybe not. But Braxton has performed much better and much more consistently on the biggest stage for the longest period of time, and that isn't arguable.

    Based on production to this point, there is no debate.

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